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Aztecs butchered, ate invaders

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Originally posted by: MrWizzard
MrPickins
Not any worse than "civilized" society has done. In this case, giving out smallpox infected blankets for example.
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Did we give them blankets with the smallpox to kill them on purpose? Did we know that it would kill them?
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yes, it was actually part of the 'strategy'...and smallpox is no joke...you die an extremely painfull death.
 
Originally posted by: MrWizzard
MrPickins
Not any worse than "civilized" society has done. In this case, giving out smallpox infected blankets for example.
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Did we give them blankets with the smallpox to kill them on purpose? Did we know that it would kill them?
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Good post. You've made me read up a bit more about it. At that time, I don't think smallpox was know to be contagious, although it was one of the first diseases known by physicians to be.

There is at least one instance of the disease being delibertately spread this way by the British army, however

Originally posted by: dquan97
I'd rather get smallpox than having my heart ripped out
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Honestly, I'm not sure which would be worse.
 
Originally posted by: ThePresence
"It was a continuous sacrifice over six months. While the prisoners were listening to their companions being sacrificed, the next ones were being selected,"
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How the heck do they figure that out from 500 year old bones?
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The same way scientists figure out air temperatures from cores of 100,000 year old ice.
 
Originally posted by: Brutuskend
I for one am glad they at least went down fighting.

The natives I mean.

The Spanish during their time in South America did MUCH MUCH worse.

BTW: LINK??
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I agree. The Spaniards seem obsessed with blood...conquistadores, the Spanish Inquisition, bullfighting, sangria...I don't know what's wrong with them.
 
Originally posted by: broon
Originally posted by: ArchCenturion
Wow, seems pretty brutal.

Im glad they were wiped out
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Wiping out an entire group of people is much worse than cannibalism.
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They weren't wiped out, just conquered. The Aztecs called themselves the Mexica. What is the name of that country just to the south of the US? The tribal symbol of the Aztecs was an eagle sitting on a cactus eating a snake. What's on the flag of Mexico?
It is estimated that roughly 90% of the population of Mexico is of native descent, mostly mixed descent (mestizo).

This thread demonstrates how literally astounding it is the lack of proper history and geography education people have nowadays. It is well-known to all historians but the would-be revisionists that the Aztecs were a truly bloodthirsty people, and that most the victims they either sacrificed or cannibalized by the hundreds per day came from the neighboring tribes they had conquered. Brutal as the Spanish were to them (and that I don't deny), there is little doubt that it was nothing less than the payback they brought upon themselves.
 
Originally posted by: jagec
I agree. The Spaniards seem obsessed with blood...conquistadores, the Spanish Inquisition, bullfighting, sangria...I don't know what's wrong with them.
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700 years of fighting the Moorish occupation did that to them. They went from an oppressed people to controlling almost half the known world almost overnight.
 
Originally posted by: Vic
They weren't wiped out, just conquered. The Aztecs called themselves the Mexica. What is the name of that country just to the south of the US? The tribal symbol of the Aztecs was an eagle sitting on a cactus eating a snake. What's on the flag of Mexico?
It is estimated that roughly 90% of the population of Mexico is of native descent, mostly mixed descent (mestizo).

This thread demonstrates how literally astounding it is the lack of proper history and geography education people have nowadays. It is well-known to all historians but the would-be revisionists that the Aztecs were a truly bloodthirsty people, and that most the victims they either sacrificed or cannibalized by the hundreds per day came from the neighboring tribes they had conquered. Brutal as the Spanish were to them (and that I don't deny), there is little doubt that it was nothing less than the payback they brought upon themselves.
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What about the Incas, then, a much more palatable civilization? If anything, they were even worse off than the Aztecs.

I'm certainly not going to claim that the Aztecs were just sitting in the new world dancing in fields of flowers when the Spaniards came, but this cannot, does not, and WILL not justify the actions of Spain in the Americas. As far as I'm concerned, the conquest of the Americas was a struggle between two barbaric cultures; "civilization" has nothing to do with it. At least the British had SOME sort of presumtuous, "bringing the light to the less fortunate" touch on their colonies. Somewhat.
 
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: Vic
They weren't wiped out, just conquered. The Aztecs called themselves the Mexica. What is the name of that country just to the south of the US? The tribal symbol of the Aztecs was an eagle sitting on a cactus eating a snake. What's on the flag of Mexico?
It is estimated that roughly 90% of the population of Mexico is of native descent, mostly mixed descent (mestizo).

This thread demonstrates how literally astounding it is the lack of proper history and geography education people have nowadays. It is well-known to all historians but the would-be revisionists that the Aztecs were a truly bloodthirsty people, and that most the victims they either sacrificed or cannibalized by the hundreds per day came from the neighboring tribes they had conquered. Brutal as the Spanish were to them (and that I don't deny), there is little doubt that it was nothing less than the payback they brought upon themselves.
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What about the Incas, then, a much more palatable civilization? If anything, they were even worse off than the Aztecs.

I'm certainly not going to claim that the Aztecs were just sitting in the new world dancing in fields of flowers when the Spaniards came, but this cannot, does not, and WILL not justify the actions of Spain in the Americas. As far as I'm concerned, the conquest of the Americas was a struggle between two barbaric cultures; "civilization" has nothing to do with it. At least the British had SOME sort of presumtuous, "bringing the light to the less fortunate" touch on their colonies. Somewhat.
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At what point did I ever attempt to justify the actions of the Spaniards? Oh, that's right... I didn't. All I said is that the Mexicas got conquered, just like all the other tribes that they had conquered.
 
Originally posted by: Vic
At what point did I ever attempt to justify the actions of the Spaniards? Oh, that's right... I didn't. All I said is that the Mexicas got conquered, just like all the other tribes that they had conquered.
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Sorry, I wasn't disagreeing with anything you said, I was just making a point of my own😉
 
well,the followers of the aztecs seem to prefer the culture of the europeans rather than that of their ancestors.
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Bryophyte
Tastes like chicken.
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Actually, they say that human is supposed to taste more like pork. 😉
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I know. I can't hear the words "Canadian Bacon" without thinking about that hog farmer in Canada who butchered those women and might've sold some of the meat. :barf;
 
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