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Axe vs Ask

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HomerJS said:
Just as acceptable as...
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Really? I would put that on the line with potato potahtoe, tomato tomahtoe, pecan peecan, carmel caramel, etc.. etc..

I've always said it nuclear, but never thought it was a big deal. It's also not exactly in daily vocabulary usage...
 
I think it's fine. It isn't the correct way to say "ask", but I can understand it, so whatever. I do have a problem with trying to turn "axe" into the proper pronunciation for some people though.

I think the entire ebonics movement is borne of a tendency people have to do something a certain way and then retroactively declare that how they were doing it was the "right" way. I've seen a hundred examples of it in my life, in all categories of activity. The underlying thread in all of it is that people do things that they know aren't exactly right, but they also don't want to admit that they were doing something wrong, so they try to manipulate the variables to justify their actions after the fact. In this case we have a whole lot of people who are speaking improper english, and instead of trying to correct their speech they're trying to change the nature of what is proper. It all boils down to laziness really.
 
mistercrabby said:
Me too.

pesketti.
nukular.
exscape.
excetera.

it's not ebonics or hillbilly exactly... it's simply poor diction. there are regional or ethnic variations, which i can understand. however, those are still mispronunciations. i don't make fun of little kids when they can't quite get there yet any more than i would someone for whom English is a second language, but it doesn't make it correct.
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mistercrabby said:
Oh, and poor diction does not become erudite just because someone pronounced it wrong 500 years ago and some egghead dropped it in the OED.
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So, do you accept and say "Aluminum," even though that spelling is singly due to poor diction and spelling, leading to its inclusion in Webster's little Lexicon?
 
It's cringeworthy when I hear people want to axe me a question. Up in the north here, it's "ask". Dont care if it's origins are from old english, we don't speak that way now.
 
s0me0nesmind1 said:
Really? I would put that on the line with potato potahtoe, tomato tomahtoe, pecan peecan, carmel caramel, etc.. etc..

I've always said it nuclear, but never thought it was a big deal. It's also not exactly in daily vocabulary usage...
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I'm just wondering how you differentiate?

Changing an "s" to an "x" is ignorant

Dropping "g"s is just folksy and acceptable like
skiin'
comin'
askin'
readin'

IMO both are examples of bad grammer

Just axing 🙂
 
Fingolfin269 said:
Let me axeth you these questions.. If a nukular bomb exploded how would you exscape? Run? Hide? Excetera? Know what I mean?
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I would just enjoy an ecspresso and ignore the ecstream devastation happening around me while I await ecstermination.
 
z1ggy said:
It's cringeworthy when I hear people want to axe me a question. Up in the north here, it's "ask". Dont care if it's origins are from old english, we don't speak that way now.
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No. New York is where it is particularly prevalent even across racial lines. Ever watch Futurama? I also take issue with your use of the word "we." Obviously, some do speak that way now. You and I don't, but some DO.

zinfamous said:
So, do you accept and say "Aluminum," even though that spelling is singly due to poor diction and spelling, leading to its inclusion in Webster's little Lexicon?
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Actually, the guy responsible for naming it in English used the spellings interchangeably.

Edit: ...and eventually settled on what would be the American spelling. His use of that spelling also predates his use of the non-American English-speaking world adopted.
 
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zinfamous said:
So, do you accept and say "Aluminum," even though that spelling is singly due to poor diction and spelling, leading to its inclusion in Webster's little Lexicon?
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:hmm:

It was "aluminum" (among other things) before it was ever "aluminium."

http://www.worldwidewords.org/articles/aluminium.htm

Sir Humphry made a bit of a mess of naming this new element, at first spelling it alumium (this was in 1807) then changing it to aluminum, and finally settling on aluminium in 1812.
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UglyCasanova said:
NPR says it's okay, Chaucer did it.


Personally it makes me cringe a little when I hear it. Kind of like the word ain't.
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Ain't is kind of a made-up, slang word, but it's based in actual English and has existed a long, long time.

"Axe" is from idiots who can't pronounce "Ask" correctly. It's not an evolution, it's simply from idiots pronouncing 'ask' incorrectly so long that people started first using it to make fun of them, and now it's becoming more common.

Regardless of whether it was or wasn't used in ancient history, that's not why it's become common today, primarily among blacks. It's just poor English usage.

Right up with with "My baby daddy", for "my baby's daddy", and all the other so-called "ebonics" that are in use.
 
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Ichinisan said:
zinfamous said:
So, do you accept and say "Aluminum," even though that spelling is singly due to poor diction and spelling, leading to its inclusion in Webster's little Lexicon?
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:hmm:

It was "aluminum" (among other things) before it was ever "aluminium."

http://www.worldwidewords.org/articles/aluminium.htm
Sir Humphry made a bit of a mess of naming this new element, at first spelling it alumium (this was in 1807) then changing it to aluminum, and finally settling on aluminium in 1812.
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That's still wrong. It was not only first called aluminum by the man who originally named it before he ever called it aluminium, but it was also his finalized spelling:

Davy settled on aluminum by the time he published his 1812 book Chemical Philosophy: "This substance appears to contain a peculiar metal, but as yet Aluminum has not been obtained in a perfectly free state, though alloys of it with other metalline substances have been procured sufficiently distinct to indicate the probable nature of alumina."
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminum#Etymology

The man who gave it the English name named it Aluminum. :colbert:

Once again, Americans are right and use English better than the English. 😎
 
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Just watched this YouTube video where the guy says "expecially" and repeatedly says "simular."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QHd-_qncEU

On top of that, I think this guy is grossly misinterpreting Samsung's letter. They're simply offering a resolution (replace the phone) and saying that acceptance of the resolution means you can't decide to sue for more money in the future for the same incident. They aren't telling him that the replacement phone isn't covered for any future issues.

My half brother also does the "simular" thing. He even spells it that way. Very irritating!
 
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