Awesome XFX 4890 Black Edition Review

[footballrunner800]

I'l take a quote from one of your previous posts

Originally posted by: Wreckage
http://www.hardocp.com/news.ht...xoZW50aHVzaWFzdCwsLDE=

Those gamers with a more modest video card budget are certainly not out in the cold for Warhead. The GeForce GTX 260 outperformed the Radeon HD 4870 in almost every test we ran, and it can be had right now for just under $200 USD. The NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 is simply a phenomenal video card for Crysis: Warhead, and virtually any other game as well.

With a lot of companies licensing this game engine, this is a good review of how certain video cards will perform in many upcoming games.

Crysis warhead looks just as good as the original, its just more optimized. I think they where coming out with a patch for the original but decided to just release it as another game instead.

 

[ronnn]

Originally posted by: Woofmeister

Originally posted by: ronnn

Originally posted by: Woofmeister
Sorry, but testing any high-powered graphics solution with a game running 1680 x 1050 is not very helpful. Who runs at that resolution? Next time try Crysis Warhead at 1600 x 1200 and 1920 x 1200 and see how things shake out.

I don't see a huge percentage difference as the resolution increases, so not sure what your point is?

I don't have a dog in this fight. For all I know, the XFX 4890 BE might kick the crap out of my GTX 275s. I just think a review using a resolution that low doesn't tell us anything useful.

The results looked the same to me? I have a 1680 x 1050 and I aways look at the 1600 x 1200 as being close to identical in frame rates achieved. Both reviews show the gtx 285 as being the fastest by about the same percentage. Of course if I wanted a comprehensive review, DH would likely not suffice.

 

[Modular]

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: SickBeast Ok Wreckage, please name 5 games that are more demanding than Crysis Warhead.

Well the original Crysis for one.

OK, so we've named one. It's time for this troll to get a vacation to say the least. Or can't we make him say he's a member of the nVidia Focus Group...I mean it's pretty damn obvious.

 

[nitromullet]

Originally posted by: dguy6789
The 4870x2 beats the GTX 295 at the highest resolution and settings(2560x1600 with 8xaa)yet people still call the GTX 295 the faster card. It's because those settings are "too high" and nobody runs those settings so they don't count... I don't think it's fair to just arbitrarily pick a setting and say a card is overall faster because it wins at that one setting.(1920x1200 with some AA seems to be popular for that) If the 4890 Black Edition beats the GTX 285 at 1680x1050, then it does, and no amount of word twisting will change that. It's obviously not a cpu limited resolution since the fps are not identical across the board. It's also likely that a LOT more people use a 22 inch or smaller monitor than 24 inch or larger. I wouldn't be so quick to scoff at the benchmark results.

Well, that's why most reviews test multiple resolutions. I own a 24" 1920x1200 LCD, so I'm seldom concerned with the 1680x1050 or 2560x1600 benchmarks.

You do have to admit the review is a tad bit strange in the lack of consistency with resolutions across the different benchmarks. Most of them include 1920x1200 and 2560x1600, but Crysis Warhead is the only one at only 1680x1050. It appears they are taking a somewhat HardOCP approach, and benching at the 'best playable settings'.

 

[Woofmeister]

Originally posted by: nitromullet

Originally posted by: dguy6789
The 4870x2 beats the GTX 295 at the highest resolution and settings(2560x1600 with 8xaa)yet people still call the GTX 295 the faster card. It's because those settings are "too high" and nobody runs those settings so they don't count... I don't think it's fair to just arbitrarily pick a setting and say a card is overall faster because it wins at that one setting.(1920x1200 with some AA seems to be popular for that) If the 4890 Black Edition beats the GTX 285 at 1680x1050, then it does, and no amount of word twisting will change that. It's obviously not a cpu limited resolution since the fps are not identical across the board. It's also likely that a LOT more people use a 22 inch or smaller monitor than 24 inch or larger. I wouldn't be so quick to scoff at the benchmark results.

Well, that's why most reviews test multiple resolutions. I own a 24" 1920x1200 LCD, so I'm seldom concerned with the 1680x1050 or 2560x1600 benchmarks.

You do have to admit the review is a tad bit strange in the lack of consistency with resolutions across the different benchmarks. Most of them include 1920x1200 and 2560x1600, but Crysis Warhead is the only one at only 1680x1050. It appears they are taking a somewhat HardOCP approach, and benching at the 'best playable settings'.

This was sort of my point. A review that doesn't test at consistent and multiple resolutions for each game isn't very helpful. The fact that Crysis Warhead cannot deliver a playable average frame rate using a single card at 1920x1200 should be noted, but the attempt still gives more information from which a SLI or Crossfire setup's performance can be roughly extrapolated.

 

[Wreckage]

Originally posted by: Sylvanas

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: SickBeast
Ok Wreckage, please name 5 games that are more demanding than Crysis Warhead.

Well the original Crysis for one.

No Wreckage, lol. Warhead is better optimized than the original Crytek said it themselves and some say it is more detailed than the original:

However there has been optimization in that the environment is more detailed, and there's much more action on screen at any time

Thank you for making my point. Crysis Warhead is better optimized (and therefore less demanding than the original Crysis).

 

[lavaheadache]

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: Sylvanas

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: SickBeast
Ok Wreckage, please name 5 games that are more demanding than Crysis Warhead.

Well the original Crysis for one.

No Wreckage, lol. Warhead is better optimized than the original Crytek said it themselves and some say it is more detailed than the original:

However there has been optimization in that the environment is more detailed, and there's much more action on screen at any time

Thank you for making my point. Crysis Warhead is better optimized (and therefore less demanding than the original Crysis).

So Crysis is still the only game you have listed as more demanding than Warhead

 

[solofly]

4 more to go...

lol

 

[Munky]

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: Sylvanas

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: SickBeast
Ok Wreckage, please name 5 games that are more demanding than Crysis Warhead.

Well the original Crysis for one.

No Wreckage, lol. Warhead is better optimized than the original Crytek said it themselves and some say it is more detailed than the original:

However there has been optimization in that the environment is more detailed, and there's much more action on screen at any time

Thank you for making my point. Crysis Warhead is better optimized (and therefore less demanding than the original Crysis).

Hahaha! Since when is better optimized synonymous for less demanding? They could have optimized it and made it more demanding at the same time by upping the workload.

 

[konakona]

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: Sylvanas

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: SickBeast
Ok Wreckage, please name 5 games that are more demanding than Crysis Warhead.

Well the original Crysis for one.

No Wreckage, lol. Warhead is better optimized than the original Crytek said it themselves and some say it is more detailed than the original:

However there has been optimization in that the environment is more detailed, and there's much more action on screen at any time

Thank you for making my point. Crysis Warhead is better optimized (and therefore less demanding than the original Crysis).

hmm, from the same studio, looks better and runs better. Any reason why you would care about Crysis at this point?

 

[lavaheadache]

i still enjoy the original Crysis, just not the verbal vomit from anandtech's most dependable fanboy. I'm thinking about requesting a new avatar made available..... What do you guys think about a pinata?

i kinda wanna give crossfire a run with a pair of 4890's. I've had like 4 Sli rigs and would love to see how crossfire runs

 

[Sylvanas]

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: Sylvanas

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: SickBeast
Ok Wreckage, please name 5 games that are more demanding than Crysis Warhead.

Well the original Crysis for one.

No Wreckage, lol. Warhead is better optimized than the original Crytek said it themselves and some say it is more detailed than the original:

However there has been optimization in that the environment is more detailed, and there's much more action on screen at any time

Thank you for making my point. Crysis Warhead is better optimized (and therefore less demanding than the original Crysis).

You obviously have no clue, I'll leave it at that. /troll

 

[scooterlibby]

Originally posted by: lavaheadache

Originally posted by: Wreckage
Actually that's Crysis: Warhead which is not a very demanding game.

funny, my pc thinks it is a very demanding game. You must have a much more powerful rig than I do.

Yeah dude mine is quite a bit more powerful and it thinks it to be quite demanding as well. "Optimized" yeah right.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: Modular

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: SickBeast Ok Wreckage, please name 5 games that are more demanding than Crysis Warhead.

Well the original Crysis for one.

OK, so we've named one. It's time for this troll to get a vacation to say the least. Or can't we make him say he's a member of the nVidia Focus Group...I mean it's pretty damn obvious.

There were accusations like this all over the place years ago when Wreckage first showed up. People were absolutely convinced that he was an alter-ego of Rollo. AFAIK the mods got involved and confirmed that he did not have the same IP address, and I'm pretty sure that one of them turned out to be in Wisconsin or something, whereas the other was quite some distance from there.

People have also made the focus group accusation; he has never admitted it and probably never will.

I know someone who is 100% convinced that he is a duplicate account of *someone*; I'm just not sure who it is yet.

 

[Wreckage]

Originally posted by: Sylvanas

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: Sylvanas

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: SickBeast
Ok Wreckage, please name 5 games that are more demanding than Crysis Warhead.

Well the original Crysis for one.

No Wreckage, lol. Warhead is better optimized than the original Crytek said it themselves and some say it is more detailed than the original:

However there has been optimization in that the environment is more detailed, and there's much more action on screen at any time

Thank you for making my point. Crysis Warhead is better optimized (and therefore less demanding than the original Crysis).

You obviously have no clue, I'll leave it at that. /troll

http://kotaku.com/5017901/crys...easier-on-your-machine

I use facts, while the rest use insults. That's ok I prefer the high ground.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: Wreckage
I prefer the high ground.

Is being a liar taking the high ground? Where are the other 4 games? Can you even name one more game that is more demanding?

 

[Keriokie2000]

ummmm Falcon 3.0 back in the day?

 

[evolucion8]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Wreckage
I prefer the high ground.

Is being a liar taking the high ground? Where are the other 4 games? Can you even name one more game that is more demanding?

Yeah, remember that he's the guy who stated that the HD 4890 is a match for the GTX 260+ and that the HD 4870 is a match for the GTS 250 rofl

 

[PianoMan]

Originally posted by: Dadofamunky
I'm sorry, but for slide shows, only a CP/M machine will do

That's such a flash from the past, my head's starting to hurt...

 

[PJABBER]

My first PC was a Morrow Micro Decision CP/M with 2 floppies. Running WordStar. The best machine for word processing I ever had, never had to take my hands off the keyboard. Can't remember playing games on it but it was absolutely perfect for a writer. The floppies only ran when accessed (one for programs, one for data) and no fan made this system super quiet. I gave it to my girlfriend after I "upgraded" to a Compaq "portable" and it took her all the way through med school and years after. No headaches here, just good memories of bringing in the personal computing era with a machine that was useful.