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sactoking

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Yeah, the plot holes aren't really plot holes if you remember that not every character in the movie knows exactly what is going on with all other characters at all times.

Tony Stark explaining the "rules" of time travel? Just theory.
Bruce Banner promising to set the timeline right? He had no idea that Loki was creating an alternate time line at that very moment.
Undoing the snap the way they did? Nobody knew Nebula was going to forever skew the "main" timeline.

It's like people who think Rey's parents in Star Wars HAVE to be nobodies because Ben Solo said so. Like he somehow knows this to be gospel truth AND doesn't have huge motivation not to lie about it.
 

Aikouka

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Tony Stark explaining the "rules" of time travel? Just theory.

According to the latest Because Science on YouTube, it appears that Endgame actually follows what's considered proper rules of quantum mechanics and the ability to traverse through time. Although, their "solution" is likely just some sort of mumbo-jumbo, but the use of quantum mechanics and being unable to change the past is considered accurate.


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Although, I think the real question that we're not asking is... did Cap have to inject the goo back into Jane? o_O
 

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Time-travel in fiction almost never stands up to scrutiny. I gather the movie 'Primer' made a serious effort at making sense, but that's why there are vastly complicated flowcharts on the web trying to explain that movie.

(I only ever saw the first 5 minutes of Primer, before future-me appeared and explained I would never be able to understand it so shouldn't bother watching it).
 

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Lifer
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Also, I'm sure we're living in an alternate time-line right now, and I expect we'll all vanish in a puff of temporal logic, once Marty gets that Sports Almanac back from 'Biff' Trump.
 

Kaido

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Finally saw it, a month after release. Theater was still packed!

THE FEELS :weary::weary::weary:
 

Kaido

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No. The Ancient One wasn't going to give Banner the stone because she didn't want her reality changed for someone else's reality, so Banner explained that they would bring the stones back at the point they took them, to fix her reality.

I thought that was a sufficient explanation, without getting too deep into the headaches of time-travels. The visualization of the timeline & the splinter going black, with the stone being restored to fix it, was good 'nuff imo.
 

Kaido

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1. Why didn't Tony just snap himself back to life?

2. I think they messed up a shot - when Scott was hot-wiring the van during the final fight, it showed him a second later as a giant WWF-bodyslamming one of the snake-ships.

3. I wonder what happened to Loki...or is that how he got back to Asgard, and then had to steal it back at the end of Thor Ragnarok?
 

Skel

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1. Why didn't Tony just snap himself back to life?

2. I think they messed up a shot - when Scott was hot-wiring the van during the final fight, it showed him a second later as a giant WWF-bodyslamming one of the snake-ships.

3. I wonder what happened to Loki...or is that how he got back to Asgard, and then had to steal it back at the end of Thor Ragnarok?

3. He's got a show on the new Disney streaming service. That'll prob be where they show what happened to him.
 
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spacejamz

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Finally saw it yesterday....that movie could have easily been shaved by 30 minutes or more and still have the same feel (for example, opening sequence could have been cut in half)...

we enjoyed the movie though....
 

Meghan54

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Finally saw it, a month after release. Theater was still packed!

THE FEELS :weary::weary::weary:


Saw it maybe 2 weeks ago at an 11AM showing. 6 people in the theater, including the two of us (my wife and myself.) Decent enough movie, but maybe shoulda waited for it to come out on DVD/streaming. Don't quite think it was worth the $30 we spent. (Small Coke is $6...???? WTF????? And this reminded me of one reason we don't go to the movies much any longer...)