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Avalon shows dent in Toyota quality

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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
"But Hanson acknowledged that Toyota has been concerned with the initial wave of quality problems for the car. Toyota's priority has been to find and remedy problems, get the fixes to the production line, and issue technical service bulletins so dealers can fix the faults on vehicles already on the road. "

TSB's are not covered under warranty, right?
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Of course they are.

A TSB is just an "FYI" for the dealer mechanics.
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Hmm, my misuderstanding then. I take it then that they are not covered once the vehicle is out of warranty?
 
Originally posted by: Strk
Originally posted by: CombatChuk
This just shows that all car companies have problems. Honda and Toyota shine is starting to tarnish...

How the mighty have fallen :evil:
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How do issues with Toyotas reflect on Honda?

Oh, and this isn't the first time Toyota has had problems. Just do a quick search on "Toyota sludge" and you will see how problem free they've been. They are reliable cars, but I think people sometimes give them too much credit (and others too little).
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I hear you, people do indeed give too much credit for reliability. All I'm saying is that manufacturer reliability is starting to become a moot point.
 
Originally posted by: CadetLee
Originally posted by: xit2nowhere
Guys, how is the quality of Toyota Tacoma trucks ?
I think I'm gonna move to Colorado next year and would like to get one of those trucks.

Thanks...
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Excellent.

Buy one. :thumbsup:😀
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My friend just bought a Taco built at the NUMMI plant...they put the wrong speedometer in it :laugh: -- and the dealer doesn't know how to disassemble the dash to swap it out.
 
Kevin Clingenpeel, a 37-year-old insurance litigator from Fort Mill, S.C., loved his Avalon for the first 2,000 miles. Then the transmission shifts became erratic, especially in cold weather. The engine developed a persistent knock, which could not be cured by changing grades of gasoline or by using a fuel-injector cleaner.
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engine might be overtuned.

between this and the camry, toyo has slipped up on auto trannies lately. I wonder if new designs are getting too aggressive trying to build trannies that have too many gears, try to hold a lot of power, and at the same time make it compact and cram it into fwd. Also everyone wants a smooth shifting auto, but supposedly harder shifts are actually better for auto longevity.
 
Every vehicle has at least that many TSBs.

By law they are only required to notify the owners of safety related recalls. We usually only hear about those.

 
ugh @ all the people making grandiose claims like "OH HOW THE MIGHTY HAVE FALLEN" wtf?


These are minor problems and toyota will fix them. Unlike GM's with known failures that go on for 8 years because GM is too cheap to fix. Bad trannies, rear ends, intake gaskets, head gaskets, cracked blocks etc.
 
Originally posted by: OS
Kevin Clingenpeel, a 37-year-old insurance litigator from Fort Mill, S.C., loved his Avalon for the first 2,000 miles. Then the transmission shifts became erratic, especially in cold weather. The engine developed a persistent knock, which could not be cured by changing grades of gasoline or by using a fuel-injector cleaner.
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engine might be overtuned.

between this and the camry, toyo has slipped up on auto trannies lately. I wonder if new designs are getting too aggressive trying to build trannies that have too many gears, try to hold a lot of power, and at the same time make it compact and cram it into fwd. Also everyone wants a smooth shifting auto, but supposedly harder shifts are actually better for auto longevity.
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overtuned? :disgust: Yeah, they put too many ground wire upgrade kits and naws stickers
 
Originally posted by: CFster
Every vehicle has at least that many TSBs.

By law they are only required to notify the owners of safety related recalls. We usually only hear about those.
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Most GM vehicles have 10 pages. This is sensationalist bs.
 
It's growing pains, and they'll only continue. I'm pretty sure reliability between chevy, ford and toyota are nearing the same, if not the same already. People just refuse to recognize.

When my dad worked for chevy (while he was getting his masters/Ph.D) chevy flew him around the U.S. to see the different plants, I cannot remember the exact reason for the travelling but.... While he was at the toyota corolla/chevy nova plant he was shown some interesting information. The powertrain, everything was pretty much designed by toyota, and chevy basically just put their logo on it. Well, there was twice as many chevy's being brought in for warranty service on the transmissions as there were toyotas, dispite having the exact same parts. (there was a ticking noise in the transmissions)

What can you draw from this: People who drive toyotas don't get worried when they hear something, they figure it's supposed to be that way. What do chevy owners think? They know something will go wrong so as soon as something is different, they go bring the car in for service.
 
Originally posted by: DaShen
Hey OP, Isn't Ford a major manufacturer in Raleigh, NC? Any alterior motives in posting this. 😛 😉
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Ford? In Raleigh? What are you smoking? 😀

As for having an alterior motive. I'm the biggest Toyota fanboi on these forums.
 
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