AVADirect Defies Nature, sticks a SB E Desktop chip on a Lappy

[RavenSEAL]

Sandy Bridge E squashed into $3,000 Clevo P270WM gaming suitcase

By Sharif Sakr posted Feb 7th 2012 1:13PM

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If you thought Intel's super-charged Core i7 CPUs were only for desktops, then AVADirect reckons it can change your mind. The company's Clevo P270WM notebook comes strapped to the back of either a six-core i7-3930K or an over-sized i7-3960X, while still leaving plenty of room for dual GeForce GTX 580M graphics, a Bigfoot Killer WiFi adapter, three hard drives and four memory slots offering up to 32GB of RAM. Topping it all off is a 3D-capable 17.3-inch Full HD LED glossy display and backlit keyboard. The base configuration with the 3930K processor, single graphics card and 750GB HDD will set you back over $3,000, and if you have to ask how much the NVIDIA Quadro graphics option costs then you're probably better off with something like this.

Negative battery life anyone? D:

 

[MrTeal]

I think Sharif's description (gaming suitcase) is more apt than yours (laptop).
12lbs is not something I'd want to carry around all day along with everything else I need.

 

[RavenSEAL]

I think Sharif's description (gaming suitcase) is more apt than yours (laptop).
12lbs is not something I'd want to carry around all day along with everything else I need.

Still doesn't stop it from being a "laptop", the form factor is equal.

 

[IlllI]

they don't call these laptops, they call them 'desktop replacements'

 

[formulav8]

yeah dtr's

 

[Edrick]

Does it even come with a battery or does it need to be plugged in all the time?

 

[Rvenger]

Its going to feel like a German Shepherd sitting on your lap.

 

[ElFenix]

Does it even come with a battery or does it need to be plugged in all the time?

didn't msi actually try to sell a computer like that?

 

[Ferzerp]

You have to realize that on a system like this, the 130W TDP of the processor is less than the TDP of both the video processors together (100W each).

I've had a laptop with a quadro with a 130W TDP before. This is no worse. On battery power, your video clock speed is severely limited because the battery cannot output enough current to let it perform at max. I would imagine they do that on the video and cpu on these things. Mine had a 235W power supply. This one would need like 370W or so if all components are allowed to run at full power (and that would only leave 40W to power the screen and everything other than the cpu and gpu.

You usually get 0:45 to 1:20 in battery life on a real DTR. It's a portable desktop and not meant as a battery powered device.


edit: their site suggests they're shipping with 300W power supplies. I can see there being some issues if you fully load this thing with 200W of gpu, 130W of cpu. It's going to have some throttling in place to keep power draw down and you aren't going to get full use of that hardware. (not that 100% utilization if common (or even attainable) in all by contrived scenarios)

 

[Gikaseixas]

DTR's are meant to stay plugged in. I had a 18 inch ASUS monster, with a Q9000 @ 2.8, dual ATI 4870M's with a 230w PS and believe me, that thing was heavy, hot, power hungry and straight up huge.
If you enjoy LAN parties, these things are the best compromise IMO.

Edit: http://www.amazon.com/Asus-W90Vp-A1-ASUS-18-4-Inch-Laptop/dp/B0021AELO8

 

[Grooveriding]

How will they cool it, the chip is going to be an oven in there. lol. These sb-e chips run hot :biggrin:

 

[Ferzerp]

DTRs generally get disturbingly loud when all the fans turn on high. You can cool them, but you have to be more careful than normal about making sure you use a flat surface, etc. You can get away with sitting a non DTR on a couch arm or something like that, but a DTR, you had better have sitting on a rigid, flat surface, or it will overheat.

 

[Smartazz]

That laptop probably uses more power than my system does with 2 6870s and a 4.5GHz 2500K. I can't imagine how hot that must get.

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

Yay for crappy battery life and a weight of at least 100 pounds.

This thing is so senseless... it defeats the whole purpose of a laptop.

 

[gorydetails]

Y make such a devise,,,u need a cart to move it around,,,

 

[Ferzerp]

Yay for crappy battery life and a weight of at least 100 pounds.

This thing is so senseless... it defeats the whole purpose of a laptop.

They don't. DTRs have a niche role. If you want uncompromised performance and want to carry it with you, this is what you buy.

I had one for work for years, and finally moved down to a 15.6" lower end model (but not until I could get the performance I had 2 years ago with a DTR (Dell precision M6400 fully loaded to be exact) in the smaller form factor. It took until late 2011 for that to be available.

 

[RavenSEAL]

How will they cool it, the chip is going to be an oven in there. lol. These sb-e chips run hot :biggrin:

Maybe water cooling? I'm not sure how that would work on a laptop...

 

[Ferzerp]

Maybe water cooling? I'm not sure how that would work on a laptop...

Laptops have been cooling GPUs with 130W TDP for ages. Typically you have a heat-pipe setup with a heatsink right at the vents. The exhaust air is typically hot enough to burn you if you keep your hand in it.

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

They don't. DTRs have a niche role. If you want uncompromised performance and want to carry it with you, this is what you buy.

I had one for work for years, and finally moved down to a 15.6" lower end model (but not until I could get the performance I had 2 years ago with a DTR (Dell precision M6400 fully loaded to be exact) in the smaller form factor. It took until late 2011 for that to be available.

Yes, it'd definitely be nice to carry a laptop + charger that combined weigh 15 pounds PLUS all the other things I have to take with me. And I'd always have to be plugged into a wall adapter, too.

Sounds like a great proposition for something that defeats the purpose of a laptop, costs huge amounts of money, yet is soundly beaten by a desktop/custom-built that costs 2-3x less.

Oh, and let's not forget the heat the thing will output and its massive size.

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

Laptops have been cooling GPUs with 130W TDP for ages. Typically you have a heat-pipe setup with a heatsink right at the vents. The exhaust air is typically hot enough to burn you if you keep your hand in it.

Even a 65W TDP GPU can burn your hand.

I know, I owned an ASUS G60VX. Had the exact heat pipe setup you're mentioning.

 

[MrTeal]

Laptops have been cooling GPUs with 130W TDP for ages. Typically you have a heat-pipe setup with a heatsink right at the vents. The exhaust air is typically hot enough to burn you if you keep your hand in it.

The 6990M is basically a downclocked 6870, so I could see it drawing in the range of 130W under Furmark.

It would be interesting to see what kind of temperatures you would see in this thing with 6990M XFire, if you were cloning one 2.5" 7200RPM HDD to another, while running Furmark and Prime95. You might want to make sure there's no paper or plastic around it when you try.

 

[Idontcare]

Finally a laptop that can best the beast:

 

[janas19]

Finally a laptop that can best the beast:

It will def overheat the beast.. .

 

[IlllI]

anyone remember the dell xps m2010? http://www.dell.com/us/dfh/p/xps-m2010/pd
always thought it was kinda cool. Even folded up and had a handle like a briefcase

 

[Joseph F]

I don't get why they didn't just put a 2700k in there.
The two extra cores the 3960X gives you won't increase performance in gaming, which seems to be the primary function of this DTR.
The only difference gaming-wise in between the 3960X and the 2700k is the massive heat you get from the 3960X.