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AV-TEST Product Review and Certification Report – May-Jun/2013 - MSE owned

Berryracer

Berryracer

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http://www.av-test.org/en/tests/home-user/windows-7/mayjun-2013/

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Comodo has a mind blowing result in both protection and performance!

Zonealarm and WSA need to improve

MSE was the real loser, that's the worst I've ever see it do since it made it's debut in 2009
 
You might want to put some clothes on. Your obsession is showing (as usual).

We all know that you have an irrational hatred for MSE, and yes we also know that it's not the most effective anti-virus tool (it actually works VERY well against common threats which are what the vast majority of "regular" users are going to encounter, it just doesn't do well against zero-day exploits so it gets a lower score in your tests), but your single minded crusade against the program is just silly. The way you are acting, someone might think MSE called you a doody-head or stole your lunch money.
 
Fardringle said:
You might want to put some clothes on. Your obsession is showing (as usual).

We all know that you have an irrational hatred for MSE, and yes we also know that it's not the most effective anti-virus tool (it actually works VERY well against common threats which are what the vast majority of "regular" users are going to encounter, it just doesn't do well against zero-day exploits so it gets a lower score in your tests), but your single minded crusade against the program is just silly. The way you are acting, someone might think MSE called you a doody-head or stole your lunch money.
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I could care less about it I don't use it and never will. But this is to wake up the people who do use it and make them think again. If it did bad I understand some people just need basic protection. But it performed horribly, I would never trust my system with that crap installed..

Aside from the fact that it doesn't automatically update the definitions you have to click on the Windows update notification daily to update them. It's a joke.

And why are you defending it so much as if you were one of the lead developers is beyond meh. heh
 
berryracer said:
Aside from the fact that it doesn't automatically update the definitions you have to click on the Windows update notification daily to update them. It's a joke.
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At least get your facts straight. It updates itself.

Key Features
Comprehensive malware protection
Supports Windows 7, Windows Vista, and Windows XP
Available in 33 languages
Simple, free* download
Protects you quietly in the background
Automatic updates

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security-essentials-download
 
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when I tried it on Windows 8, I had to update through Windows updated every once in a while as if it were a system update whereas it was just a definitions updates. all those whitepaper you posted mean poo
 
Berryracer, I am sure there is some guy somewhere who wants to listed to how much you hate MSE, and how you love to make up stuff. Unfortunately, he is not located in these forums.
 
ketchup79 said:
Berryracer, I am sure there is some guy somewhere who wants to listed to how much you hate MSE, and how you love to make up stuff. Unfortunately, he is not located in these forums.
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oh well, I just posted the results of the latest AV Tests. Where one wants to use MSE or not is up to them, but there are so many better free solutions out there such as Comodo or even AVG
 
berryracer said:
oh well, I just posted the results of the latest AV Tests. Where one wants to use MSE or not is up to them, but there are so many better free solutions out there such as Comodo or even AVG
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The only comodo I see on that list is a premium version and it had 38 false positives. "Better" can be subjective.
 
Fardringle said:
You might want to put some clothes on. Your obsession is showing (as usual).

We all know that you have an irrational hatred for MSE, and yes we also know that it's not the most effective anti-virus tool (it actually works VERY well against common threats which are what the vast majority of "regular" users are going to encounter, it just doesn't do well against zero-day exploits so it gets a lower score in your tests), but your single minded crusade against the program is just silly. The way you are acting, someone might think MSE called you a doody-head or stole your lunch money.
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You may want to get your facts straight virus scanners are not necessary and suck.
 
I've lost track of all the malware ridden MSE equipped boxes I have seen.

I use Kaspersky IS 2013 and it's a damned solid product. I also bought a 3-license Norton for $20....damned near free, and it's leagues better than MSE. Well, rubbing peanut butter on your modem is better than MSE, but yall get my point.
 
Tsavo said:
I've lost track of all the malware ridden MSE equipped boxes I have seen.

I use Kaspersky IS 2013 and it's a damned solid product. I also bought a 3-license Norton for $20....damned near free, and it's leagues better than MSE. Well, rubbing peanut butter on your modem is better than MSE, but yall get my point.
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I disagree Kaspersky and Norton is bloated. Never liked MSE either.
 
berryracer said:
when I tried it on Windows 8, I had to update through Windows updated every once in a while as if it were a system update whereas it was just a definitions updates. all those whitepaper you posted mean poo
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Windows Defender updates through Windows update. MSE updates on its own.
 
Cerb said:
Windows Defender updates through Windows update. MSE updates on its own.
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ahh that explains it because I used whatever comes with 8. Can one install MSE on 8 and disable Defender permenantly? I thought MSE is now called Defender on 8 and not a separate product as it used to be
 
Tsavo said:
How so? Kaspersky is using 3 megs system ram and Norton 10.
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Umm what :\
Their RAM usage is in the region of 100MB or more, depending on your system memory & also the number of programs you're running(background activity as well) at a time, also Kaspersky is bloated as hell & slows down your system especially if you're having a traditional HDD as system drive & a dual core processor !
 
berryracer said:
ahh that explains it because I used whatever comes with 8. Can one install MSE on 8 and disable Defender permenantly? I thought MSE is now called Defender on 8 and not a separate product as it used to be
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You can disable it, but installing an AV client that replaces it will do so, so it's pretty pointless, if you already hate MSE.

MSE protects well enough against drive-bys, in between browser, Flash, Adobe Reader, Java, etc. updates. That covers >95% of actual threats, which makes it plenty good enough for unmanaged networks. I like Avast!'s silent mode, and sideband updater, but I'm under no impression that it, or any other, is going to protect me any more than common sense.
 
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R0H1T said:
Umm what :\
Their RAM usage is in the region of 100MB or more, depending on your system memory & also the number of programs you're running(background activity as well) at a time, also Kaspersky is bloated as hell & slows down your system especially if you're having a traditional HDD as system drive & a dual core processor !
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RAM usage of an AV doesn't define how light it is. be it 50 MB, 100 MB, or 150 MB is not gonna make a diff. really, what really matters is how the scanning engine handles files and how much strain it causes on the system.
 
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