Automobile makers.... We all know that Hyundai is starting to kickass...

[Frost Byte]

As you know, Chinese automaker Chery will be entering US market as well during 2007 in our already saturated automobile market.

It took Hyundai a good 15 years until they shook off their pre-2000 POS garbage. Maybe I wonder if we will ever associate the tag 'Made in China' with quality.

How about US cars? What's up with every domestic company and their employee pricing, is the collapse of US automakers impending?

My just-for-fun speculation for 2020 is that one of the Japanese companies will go belly up due to oversaturation and fierce competition while US automakers become utterly obsolete. Hyundai would have joined the big three by then and China would be what Hyundai was like back in 90s.

 

[noob in a box]

everyone employed by the big 3 gets us wages and benefits. everyone employed in korea, china, and india by their car makers will get paid wages for those countries, much lower than us. US carmakers are doomed

 

[Ilmater]

Originally posted by: noob in a box
everyone employed by the big 3 gets union negotiated wages and benefits that are far too high. everyone employed in korea, china, and india by their car makers will get paid wages for those countries, much lower than us. Unions doomed the US carmakers

fixed

(oh, and bad quality did it too)

 

[Frost Byte]

discuss, bitches.

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: Ilmater

Originally posted by: noob in a box
everyone employed by the big 3 gets union negotiated wages and benefits that are far too high. everyone employed in korea, china, and india by their car makers will get paid wages for those countries, much lower than us. Unions doomed the US carmakers

fixed

(oh, and bad quality did it too)

yea bad quality because when you have a drunk who has been to AA multiple times, yet still comes to work drunk because the UAW fights for his job, thats bad quality.

i see US automakers making a comeback. they might draw into a recession, but something will change, GM will shrink, and Ford will becoming better, DC is already advancing, but i dont see them taking the market like toyota or hyundai.

Hyundai still has a LOT to prove. they have a horrible reputation from previous models, and i mean horrible. GM has a huge market share that is slowly falling in, but until it goes away, GM will still be around and in that time they will make changes, and will come back and compete. Ford will go retro and then i dunno what they will do after that.

and i dont see the cheap imported chinese cars making a dent in the industry. it has been tried before and failed miserably by the same guy.

 

[Frost Byte]

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1

Originally posted by: Ilmater

Originally posted by: noob in a box
everyone employed by the big 3 gets union negotiated wages and benefits that are far too high. everyone employed in korea, china, and india by their car makers will get paid wages for those countries, much lower than us. Unions doomed the US carmakers

fixed

(oh, and bad quality did it too)

yea bad quality because when you have a drunk who has been to AA multiple times, yet still comes to work drunk because the UAW fights for his job, thats bad quality.

i see US automakers making a comeback. they might draw into a recession, but something will change, GM will shrink, and Ford will becoming better, DC is already advancing, but i dont see them taking the market like toyota or hyundai.

Hyundai still has a LOT to prove. they have a horrible reputation from previous models, and i mean horrible. GM has a huge market share that is slowly falling in, but until it goes away, GM will still be around and in that time they will make changes, and will come back and compete. Ford will go retro and then i dunno what they will do after that.

and i dont see the cheap imported chinese cars making a dent in the industry. it has been tried before and failed miserably by the same guy.

Who's the same guy? You're saying Chery isn't new to US? Am I missing something here...

 

[MikeMike]

Originally posted by: Frost Byte

Originally posted by: nourdmrolNMT1

Originally posted by: Ilmater

Originally posted by: noob in a box
everyone employed by the big 3 gets union negotiated wages and benefits that are far too high. everyone employed in korea, china, and india by their car makers will get paid wages for those countries, much lower than us. Unions doomed the US carmakers

fixed

(oh, and bad quality did it too)

yea bad quality because when you have a drunk who has been to AA multiple times, yet still comes to work drunk because the UAW fights for his job, thats bad quality.

i see US automakers making a comeback. they might draw into a recession, but something will change, GM will shrink, and Ford will becoming better, DC is already advancing, but i dont see them taking the market like toyota or hyundai.

Hyundai still has a LOT to prove. they have a horrible reputation from previous models, and i mean horrible. GM has a huge market share that is slowly falling in, but until it goes away, GM will still be around and in that time they will make changes, and will come back and compete. Ford will go retro and then i dunno what they will do after that.

and i dont see the cheap imported chinese cars making a dent in the industry. it has been tried before and failed miserably by the same guy.

Who's the same guy? You're saying Chery isn't new to US? Am I missing something here...

the man who is bringing the cars across the ocean has already previously attempted to bring cheap cars to the U.S. before. i dont want to get the brand wrong, so i cant say it off hand, but it was mid 90s? and they were small, cheap, and crappy. they were so bad he couldnt make a profit so he quit.

thats why. there will be no one wanting them, there is no history, no nothing with those cars.