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Automobile Black Box Tracks Mileage

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

The vehicles that cause the most wear and tear on the roads are not small cars like the Prius. It is big heavy gas guzzling vehicles.

per gallon of gas used which causes more wear and tear?

I'd need to see some sort of study before I'd be willing to penalize the owners of hybrids. A 5000 lb SUV will do more damage to a road than a 3500 lb hybrid though.

How about motorcycles? They do virtually no damage to roads and get 40mpg.

Also, what percent of total vehicles do hybrids represent on our roads? I suspect it is still a very small percentage.
 
As someone pointed out previously, while hybrids damage roads less in terms of wear & tear over a given distance of travel, the increased travel due to better gas mileage might wear roads more. Theoretically, maybe.

At this point its all a shot in the dark 😛
 
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

The vehicles that cause the most wear and tear on the roads are not small cars like the Prius. It is big heavy gas guzzling vehicles.

per gallon of gas used which causes more wear and tear?

I'd need to see some sort of study before I'd be willing to penalize the owners of hybrids. A 5000 lb SUV will do more damage to a road than a 3500 lb hybrid though.

How about motorcycles? They do virtually no damage to roads and get 40mpg.

Also, what percent of total vehicles do hybrids represent on our roads? I suspect it is still a very small percentage.

In all honesty I would think the difference in road wear & tear between a 2 ton car and a 3 ton car would be negligible.

More damage is done to roads, bridges and interstates by OTR trucks, most specifically over-loaded trucks. I think I have read that the damage from one fully load semi on roads is equal to about 1,000 average consumer vehicles.

The trick is that most states are fearful of over-taxing trucking companies for fear they will avoid that state if possible, and never establish a hub of any sort there. Even though trucks do a disproportionate amount of damage to roads, it would be virtually impossible to tax them enough to recover what damage they do.
 
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

The vehicles that cause the most wear and tear on the roads are not small cars like the Prius. It is big heavy gas guzzling vehicles.

per gallon of gas used which causes more wear and tear?

The tax isn't done by gallon of gas used. The tax is done by miles travelled, and unless they have a different tax rate for light cars than heavy cars, they're penalizing the light cars.
 
Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

The vehicles that cause the most wear and tear on the roads are not small cars like the Prius. It is big heavy gas guzzling vehicles.

per gallon of gas used which causes more wear and tear?

The tax isn't done by gallon of gas used. The tax is done by miles travelled, and unless they have a different tax rate for light cars than heavy cars, they're penalizing the light cars.


How are these black boxes going to be fitted for antique cars? What prevents one from 'accidently' falling off?
My vw bug is a 12 volt car, but some of the older ones I'd like to get my hands on are 6 volt electrical system, this box is going to need to be completely free standing, and no I'm not cutting my sheet metal to mount it.


I just dont see this happening
 
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