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[Fenixgoon]

I was going to respond to the earlier post about Stellantis making shit anyway. Spent all of my settlement + on getting 2 Maintenance Required lights off. EGR on a diesel, what a stupid concept.

I think every commercial diesel truck uses EGR. But damned if it isn't a tricky system to get right. Especially EGR coolers. Those are probably the hardest part of EGR overall.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Companies aren't entitled to cheap labor and that is also a fact.

<20,000,000 illegal aliens have entered the chat>

We will do the job for less, just let us come in and work.

 

[Fenixgoon]

<20,000,000 illegal aliens have entered the chat>

We will do the job for less, just let us come in and work.

Is anyone putting a gun to the heads of the people that hire them? No? Well then...seems to me that's the employer's fault for violating the law.

If only there were some sort of mechanism where we could allow for people to be hired and protected, ensuring they do not distort wages and their status isn't used against them as leverage for abuse. Like a program for workers who are temporary. Or a way to grant a legal status to people who have fled their home countries for fear of violence or better economic opportunity.

 

[brycejones]

<20,000,000 illegal aliens have entered the chat>

We will do the job for less, just let us come in and work.

Who is hiring them? It's funny that we don't punish the people who hire them. The workers are responding to the market. The people hiring them are creating the market.

 

[hal2kilo]

I think every commercial diesel truck uses EGR. But damned if it isn't a tricky system to get right. Especially EGR coolers. Those are probably the hardest part of EGR overall.

Recycling soot. Probably burns once it actually gets to the cylinder, but it loves to coat the inside of everything before it gets to the cylinder. Either an expensive cleaning, or just outright replacing the air tube (normally called an intake manifold) oh that's made out of plastic. That's where those wonderful swirl valves that are actuated with a solenoid are located and that's what stops working and causes that stupid light to come on. Seen pictures of the intakes to the cylinder just coated with the stuff. Someone should have decided right then that making a clean diesel is just a stupid idea as implemented now.
Swirl valves supposedly improve low and medium response. BMW figured out how to get rid of them, it caused them so much trouble.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Recycling soot. Probably burns once it actually gets to the cylinder, but it loves to coat the inside of everything before it gets to the cylinder. Either an expensive cleaning, or just outright replacing the air tube (normally called an intake manifold) oh that's made out of plastic. That's where those wonderful swirl valves that are actuated with a solenoid are located and that's what stops working and causes that stupid light to come on. Seen pictures of the intakes to the cylinder just coated with the stuff. Someone should have decided right then that making a clean diesel is just a stupid idea as implemented now.
Swirl valves supposedly improve low and medium response. BMW figured out how to get rid of them, it caused them so much trouble.

I remember when Mercedes required the use of some sort of additive to be refilled in a separate bottle to detoxify diesel emissions.

Clean diesel lol 😆

 

[trenchfoot]

Recycling soot. Probably burns once it actually gets to the cylinder, but it loves to coat the inside of everything before it gets to the cylinder. Either an expensive cleaning, or just outright replacing the air tube (normally called an intake manifold) oh that's made out of plastic. That's where those wonderful swirl valves that are actuated with a solenoid are located and that's what stops working and causes that stupid light to come on. Seen pictures of the intakes to the cylinder just coated with the stuff. Someone should have decided right then that making a clean diesel is just a stupid idea as implemented now.
Swirl valves supposedly improve low and medium response. BMW figured out how to get rid of them, it caused them so much trouble.

Reminds me of how Trump kept misusing the term "clean coal" as a means to patronize the workers of coal producing states whose jobs are related to the coal mining industry.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Recycling soot. Probably burns once it actually gets to the cylinder, but it loves to coat the inside of everything before it gets to the cylinder. Either an expensive cleaning, or just outright replacing the air tube (normally called an intake manifold) oh that's made out of plastic. That's where those wonderful swirl valves that are actuated with a solenoid are located and that's what stops working and causes that stupid light to come on. Seen pictures of the intakes to the cylinder just coated with the stuff. Someone should have decided right then that making a clean diesel is just a stupid idea as implemented now.
Swirl valves supposedly improve low and medium response. BMW figured out how to get rid of them, it caused them so much trouble.

I remember when Mercedes required the use of some sort of additive to be refilled in a separate bottle to detoxify diesel emissions.

Clean diesel lol 😆

Considering NOx and particulate emissions are lower than ever, EGR and urea dosing work. EGR does recycle some of the soot but the major goal is reducing combustion temperatures to reduce NOx generation in the first place. A particulate filter catches soot and that is later burned off. Urea dosing works with an SCR (selective catalytic reduction) system to further reduce NOx.

I work in the trucking business. Not on the emissions side, but I've gleaned a thing or two because these systems are so important to meeting current and future regulations.

 

[hal2kilo]

I remember when Mercedes required the use of some sort of additive to be refilled in a separate bottle to detoxify diesel emissions.

Clean diesel lol 😆

Oh, that's standard but it's injected (35% urea/ 65% distilled water) in the catalytic converter or end pipe filter at the exhaust. Has zero effect on cleaning the intake.

 

[brycejones]

I remember when Mercedes required the use of some sort of additive to be refilled in a separate bottle to detoxify diesel emissions.

Clean diesel lol 😆

So you don't really understand shit about how it works. Why am I not surprised.

 

[pcgeek11]

I remember when Mercedes required the use of some sort of additive to be refilled in a separate bottle to detoxify diesel emissions.

Clean diesel lol 😆

DEF.

It is still used. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_exhaust_fluid

 

[FelixDeCat]

Considering NOx and particulate emissions are lower than ever, EGR and urea dosing work. EGR does recycle some of the soot but the major goal is reducing combustion temperatures to reduce NOx generation in the first place. A particulate filter catches soot and that is later burned off. Urea dosing works with an SCR (selective catalytic reduction) system to further reduce NOx.

I work in the trucking business. Not on the emissions side, but I've gleaned a thing or two because these systems are so important to meeting current and future regulations.

Oh, that's standard but it's injected (35% urea/ 65% distilled water) in the catalytic converter or end pipe filter at the exhaust. Has zero effect on cleaning the intake.

Thanks for the useful info. While I understand diesels have necessary applications in commercial trucking and some industrial applications...I hate their use in privately owned pickups. They almost always stink when you have to drive behind one.

Even worse are the bastards who remove their catalytic converters in cars and trucks and "straight pipe" for noise and a tiny power boost. I grew up in the 1970s and 80s and remember the bad old days when all cars stunk and emission control was primitive.

I guess I've grown spoiled to cleaner cars and cabin filters over the last 30 years.

And then here comes a dumbass in a smelly 2003 F350 with 300,000 miles or a straight piped 2010 Corvette. Heck even a restored car from the 60s or 70s on the road today reminds me of what it was like back then.

 

[brycejones]

Thanks for the useful info. While I understand diesels have necessary applications in commercial trucking and some industrial applications...I hate their use in privately owned pickups. They almost always stink when you have to drive behind one.

Even worse are the bastards who remove their catalytic converters in cars and trucks and "straight pipe" for noise and a tiny power boost. I grew up in the 1970s and 80s and remember the bad old days when all cars stunk and emission control was primitive.

I guess I've grown spoiled to cleaner cars and cabin filters over the last 30 years.

And then here comes a dumbass in a smelly 2003 F350 with 300,000 miles or a straight piped 2010 Corvette. Heck even a restored car from the 60s or 70s on the road today reminds me of what it was like back then.

Good news in the name of freedumb Texas is doing away with inspections. Keep voting for the party that does shit you don't like.

 

[IronWing]

<20,000,000 illegal aliens have entered the chat>

Liar.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Good news in the name of freedumb Texas is doing away with inspections. Keep voting for the party that does shit you don't like.

Only in rural areas. In the big cities you still have to inspect. I paid $73 just two days ago for mine and have the receipt, shitferbrains.

 

[brycejones]

Only in rural areas. In the big cities you still have to inspect. I paid $73 just two days ago for mine and have the receipt, shitferbrains.

Yes, you have shitferbrains. Rural vehicles don't drive in cities and their pollution magically stops at the city limits.

 

[hal2kilo]

Considering NOx and particulate emissions are lower than ever, EGR and urea dosing work. EGR does recycle some of the soot but the major goal is reducing combustion temperatures to reduce NOx generation in the first place. A particulate filter catches soot and that is later burned off. Urea dosing works with an SCR (selective catalytic reduction) system to further reduce NOx.

I work in the trucking business. Not on the emissions side, but I've gleaned a thing or two because these systems are so important to meeting current and future regulations.

I just can't imagine that this hasn't caused a great demand in more diesel mechanics then.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Yes, you have shitferbrains. Rural vehicles don't drive in cities and their pollution magically stops at the city limits.

You didn't draw that distinction earlier and I enlightened you. Now go clean your room before you get grounded.

 

[hal2kilo]

Thanks for the useful info. While I understand diesels have necessary applications in commercial trucking and some industrial applications...I hate their use in privately owned pickups. They almost always stink when you have to drive behind one.

Even worse are the bastards who remove their catalytic converters in cars and trucks and "straight pipe" for noise and a tiny power boost. I grew up in the 1970s and 80s and remember the bad old days when all cars stunk and emission control was primitive.

I guess I've grown spoiled to cleaner cars and cabin filters over the last 30 years.

And then here comes a dumbass in a smelly 2003 F350 with 300,000 miles or a straight piped 2010 Corvette. Heck even a restored car from the 60s or 70s on the road today reminds me of what it was like back then.

Mine has never smelled like diesel.

 

[brycejones]

You didn't draw that distinction earlier and I enlightened you. Now go clean your room before you get grounded.

Because it's immaterial. You vote for things you claim to be against.