Autism & Serial killers/Mass shooters.

[Hugo Drax]

This guy who went Colonel Kurtz and turned into the Joker shooting up the Movie theater seems to fall under the classic "Autistic" spectrum. Intelligent, meticulous and lacking empathy. A dangerous combination if the right things click.

Since Aspergers/Autistic spectrum folks lack Empathy it means they have an emotional disconnect between the victims and shooting them would obviously not be an issue.

To them humans are just an object they target and shoot. It would look like a profile could be easily set up to detect potential serial killers/mass murderers in the future.

Just look for intelligent Autistic folks who are buying guns etc.. That would raise a red flag. Requrie a license to own a gun, do something similar to the Voight Kampf test to determine if the person applying for a weapons license falls under the autistic spectrum.

This guy was probably taking ADD drugs etc.. and triggered some kind of psychotic break, in combination with his Autism it ended in a lethal outcome. Anyhow that is my theory for what has happened.

 

[SandEagle]

all serial killers are retarded

 

[vi edit]

I don't know if you post is a joke or not, but have you spent more than 5 minues with somebody that is actually is autistic?

 

[techs]

all serial killers are retarded

Anyone who says all serial killers are retarded is retarded.

 

[TheVrolok]

Massive amounts of ignorance in this thread. I think the misconceptions held by the OP regarding Autism are very common, but still widely inaccurate. Autism lies on a very broad spectrum (Autism Spectrum Disorders) encompassing retardation in social/communication skills and stereotyped behavior. That said, I don't necessarily disagree that individuals who do lie in certain areas of the spectrum with specific diagnoses should be disqualified from firearm ownership. Just as I was suggest that a screening for certain psychological disorders (history of conduct disorder, or antisocial personality disorder) should be done.

 

[Anubis]

all serial killers are retarded

actually a good number of them were at genius levels

 

[Texashiker]

actually a good number of them were at genius levels

Didn't Einstein help develop the nuclear bomb? How many people were killed between the 2 nuclear devices dropped on Japan?

All through out human history we have justified killing other people. The Romans killed millions of Gauls, the Huns invaded Europe and slaughters millions. In one battle between the Huns and the Romans, an estimated 100,000 men died.

The U.S. government slaughtered Native American Indians.

Germany and the Jews during WW2.

Joseph Stalin and the Jews after WW2.

The Japanese slaughtered the Chinese,,,,, and the list goes on and on.

The theater shooting is a reflection of how cruel we can be towards our own kind.

How is the theater shooting any different then what soldiers did to native American women and children?

all serial killers are retarded

Define serial killer.

Is obama a serial killer because he ordered US citizens killed with drones?

How do we excuse someone like obama for killing U.S. citizens without due process, but we demand justice in the theater shootings?

 

[HardcoreRobot]

Didn't Einstein help develop the nuclear bomb? How many people were killed between the 2 nuclear devices dropped on Japan?

All through out human history we have justified killing other people. The Romans killed millions of Gauls, the Huns invaded Europe and slaughters millions. In one battle between the Huns and the Romans, an estimated 100,000 men died.

The U.S. government slaughtered Native American Indians.

Germany the the Jews during WW2.

Joseph Stalin and the Jews after WW2.

The Japanese slaughtered the Chinese,,,,, and the list goes on and on.

The theater shooting is a reflection of how cruel we can be towards our own kind.

How is the theater shooting any different then what soldiers did to native American women and children?




Define serial killer.

Is obama a serial killer because he ordered US citizens killed with drones?

shame on me for thinking this thread could not get any worse

 

[Texashiker]

shame on me for thinking this thread could not get any worse

When we look at the theater shooter, we see ourselves.

We see an example of how cruel the human race can be.

 

[Wyndru]

Doctors classify MANY people with autism these days. 1 in 88 people according to the CDC. That would be a lot of people profiled.

 

[sixone]

Lack of empathy is not restricted to those who suffer from Aspergers or Autism.

There are a number of other disorders that manifest in early adulthood, but we don't have enough information to make any kind of diagnosis.

Let's leave this to the professionals, k?

 

[techs]

Einstein was prevented from working on the bomb or even knowing many of its details since he was considered a security risk because he was a pacifist.

 

[nanette1985]

I apologize to the many members here at ATOT on the autistic spectrum .

 

[SphinxnihpS]

Didn't Einstein help develop the nuclear bomb? How many people were killed between the 2 nuclear devices dropped on Japan?

All through out human history we have justified killing other people. The Romans killed millions of Gauls, the Huns invaded Europe and slaughters millions. In one battle between the Huns and the Romans, an estimated 100,000 men died.

The U.S. government slaughtered Native American Indians.

Germany and the Jews during WW2.

Joseph Stalin and the Jews after WW2.

The Japanese slaughtered the Chinese,,,,, and the list goes on and on.

The theater shooting is a reflection of how cruel we can be towards our own kind.

How is the theater shooting any different then what soldiers did to native American women and children?




Define serial killer.

Is obama a serial killer because he ordered US citizens killed with drones?

How do we excuse someone like obama for killing U.S. citizens without due process, but we demand justice in the theater shootings?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8653788864462752804

 

[OverVolt]

Its pretty interesting, autism on the rise & tragedies on the rise.

 

[TheVrolok]

Its pretty interesting, autism on the rise & tragedies on the rise.

http://www.seanbonner.com/blog/archives/piratesarecool.jpg

 

[Texashiker]

Its pretty interesting, autism on the rise & tragedies on the rise.

I guess hitler, stalin, andrew jackson, pol pot, julius ceasar, obama,,, all had autism?

 

[Hugo Drax]

Looks like other people are thinking the same thing regarding James Holmes and autism.

"As soon as I hear about this shooting, I knew who it was. I knew it was a young, white male, probably from an affluent neighborhood, disconnected from society — it happens time and time again. Most of it has to do with mental health; you have these people that are somewhere, I believe, on the autism scale," said Scarborough, whose son has Asperger's syndrome. "I don't know if that's the case here, but it happens more often than not. People that can walk around in society, they can function on college campuses — they can even excel on college campuses — but are socially disconnected."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/07/scarborough-holmes-on-autism-scale-129779.html

 

[QueBert]

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[TheVrolok]

Looks like other people are thinking the same thing regarding James Holmes and autism.

"As soon as I hear about this shooting, I knew who it was. I knew it was a young, white male, probably from an affluent neighborhood, disconnected from society — it happens time and time again. Most of it has to do with mental health; you have these people that are somewhere, I believe, on the autism scale," said Scarborough, whose son has Asperger's syndrome. "I don't know if that's the case here, but it happens more often than not. People that can walk around in society, they can function on college campuses — they can even excel on college campuses — but are socially disconnected."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/07/scarborough-holmes-on-autism-scale-129779.html

So I assume Scarborough is a qualified psychologist/psychiatrist/medical doctor/autism specialist or some other type of individual?

 

[lxskllr]

Looks like other people are thinking the same thing regarding James Holmes and autism.

"As soon as I hear about this shooting, I knew who it was. I knew it was a young, white male, probably from an affluent neighborhood, disconnected from society — it happens time and time again. Most of it has to do with mental health; you have these people that are somewhere, I believe, on the autism scale," said Scarborough, whose son has Asperger's syndrome. "I don't know if that's the case here, but it happens more often than not. People that can walk around in society, they can function on college campuses — they can even excel on college campuses — but are socially disconnected."

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/07/scarborough-holmes-on-autism-scale-129779.html

Assuming he is autistic, that points to absolutely nothing. There's little to be done about a random event that can happen due to random causes.

Maybe an autistic guy shoots up a theatre. or maybe he writes an operating system, and pioneers a social movement. Either way, it doesn't require government interference.

 

[vi edit]

The term you are looking for OP is sociopath. Not autistic. Most traditionally diagnosed autistic people would covering their ears and crying at the sound and sight of gunfire and muzzle flash.

 

[Hugo Drax]

The term you are looking for OP is sociopath. Not autistic. Most traditionally diagnosed autistic people would covering their ears and crying at the sound and sight of gunfire and muzzle flash.

That would be a low functioning Autistic.

James Holmes would be a high function Autistic. He seems to fit the mold. And lack of empathy towards others provides the dehumanization needed to enact in such a horrific crime. You don't connect with the victims, they are just a score or goal to complete in terms of kill rate. Their screams,crys and suffering would not register.

I suspect he was a high functioning Autistic who underwent some kind of schizoid breakdown when he was no longer able to handle the pressure of life, maybe ADD drugs contributed to the breakdown as well. So he had some kind of psychotic break.

 

[Modelworks]

Autism does not relate to lack of empathy, just the opposite, autistic people do not lack feeling , they have too many feelings to the point it overwhelms . The empathy autism thing needs to go away.
http://www.autismandempathy.com/

These media program doctors are ambulance chasers at their worst. I watched a doctor say the shooter had avoidant personality disorder because he likely wanted to be isolated from others and be alone, the loner type that everyone is familiar with and felt rejected by society. Nothing could be further from the truth, avoidant people want contact with people more than anything but they have a social phobia of being accepted , almost like an extreme case of shyness, they also are not violent but tend to avoid violence because it draws attention to them.

The TV docs are just throwing out junk left and right , anything to make them a quick buck.

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

Assuming he is autistic, that points to absolutely nothing. There's little to be done about a random event that can happen due to random causes.

Maybe an autistic guy shoots up a theatre. or maybe he writes an operating system, and pioneers a social movement. Either way, it doesn't require government interference.

Yes, if there's solid indicators someones about to go on a shooting spree we should just ignore it... Wow... You never cease to surprise me. You should never volunteer for a suicide hotline.