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AncientPC

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I'm going to begin a personal rant on Austin's traffic and its pigs. If you love Austin's traffic situation and dislike listening to rants, please conveniently save yourself time and delete this message.

Otherwise, off we go.

It seems like a great situation for the city. Hypothetically, we have 5,000 parking spaces total in the viscinity of downtown Austin, UT campus, and the surrounding areas of the highly esteemed University we hear of so much.

We then, hypothetically, have 10,000 vehicles that routinely travel on Austin's piece of sh!t, pot hole-ridden, one-way, 2-laned "roads". In addition to the overcrowded situation of Austin, you then add a motley of vague traffic laws and an overabundance of enforcement officers (don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against too many police officers but wouldn't they have something better to do than write parking tickets all day? Apparently not.). I wonder how much money Austin's transportation / DMV department gets from all these fines.

The fines. At the rate I'm going I'll have enough money paid in fines to buy this IT machine everyone's keeps talking about.

This morning I dropped off a friend at the airport. I took her bags in and said goodbye. I was in the airport for perhaps 5 minutes with my car outside the terminal, hazard lights on and engine running.

Do you know if you idle in your car for more than minute at the terminal they can and will write you a ticket?

Do you know that if you leave your car in front of the terminal unattended, it gets a parking fine issued by an airport security officer at the terminal. That officer then calls the towing service. If you happened to run out to talk to the officer at this point, there's nothing one can do but sit and wait for the towing service to get to the terminal before paying him off. They were "nice" and charged me the night fee of $30 instead of the day fee of $50.

So basically you get a parking fine and you get your car towed. For leaving your car unattended for more than a minute.

Apparently paying off the towing service is entirely at their discretion. The cop said it might be $50 during the day, but he had towed another car approximately 20 minutes earlier and the tower was paid off with $15. However, once the towing service gets to the terminal, the guy looks at my car and said it would cost $30. Geez, thanks. Maybe I should put a couple cracks in my windshield, run on 4 spares, break a headlight or two, and just in general rape my car so I look like I don't have money. Regardless of the fact I work a good 35+ hours a week (my car was more or less a gift, I would never have had enough money to buy it new).

Oh and beware of I-35 & 183. Once I was driving up to Austin and got pulled over for doing 82 in a 60 zone (this was before my Valentine1). At the same time, I then looked ahead and saw two more pigs writing tickets for two different cars. In my mom's green Accord too.

And if you ever park with your left wheel to the curb, that's a $35 fine (early payment discount).

Never park backwards into a parking spot either. Apparently our enforcement officers are hard at work even at 2:56 in the morning. Well, at least they have enough energy to write parking tickets at that time.

Don't ever think you can park somewhere where you're not supposed to on Sunday nights at 11pm. The pigs can and will catch you.

If you ever get a ticket, read the back for what they can fine you for and be careful not to break any of them. Because if you do, they will catch you.

You know, after getting home from the airport this morning, I took the WC shuttle to work. On the way from 26th street to 21st street, I saw five parking tickets on five different cars. My my, our enforcement officers are sure hard at work.

And Austin's roads. How come there are so many one way roads and all of them have potholes / deep ditches? I drive a dropped car (dropped by the previous owner, *shrugs*) but if you look at the quality of the front bumper on a lot of cars it's quite horrendous. Eclipses have a low front end and those are usually scratched. You see the occasional economy car with the front end cracked and hanging on one side, most likely the direct result of the ditches around Austin. If they're fining so many people, why aren't the words any better? Where does all that money go?

All of this just seems like legalized bribery. "Unless you pay this tower whatever he names, your car will be impounded." Oh wait, I'm sorry. Texas has the safety inspection requirement.

Safety inspection requirements has as many flaws in it as the fleas on the garage attendent who performs the "inspection". There are an unbelievable amount of ways to get around this not to mention how useless this process was to begin with.

They give your car a "safety" inspection. If your car doesn't pass the safety inspection, then you:
1) get the vehicle parts fixed
2) find a mom & pop garage that lets you get away with the questionable items
3) if it's an aftermarket item then you switch it back to stock, have it inspected, then switch it back out to the aftermarket item.

Not to mention, regardless if you have a current up to date inspection sticker or not, if a cop sees your car with items that he feels is illegal, he will pull you over. So why do we have safety inspections again? Where does all the money from safety inspections go again?

The highways? Don't get me wrong, I think highways in Texas are great. Especially after driving through Arkansas. If so, why does Austin's roads suck a big fat one?

Whoever came up with the double-decker I-35 idea with 10 ft entrance / exit ramps? Who intersects roads with "highways" (Loop 1 / south Mopac, TX71 / Ben White, 183 / Research Blvd) and puts stop lights everywhere? Why don't they build overpasses and just have the intersecting roads go underneat the highway? Woah! That's a new concept.

And you thought they couldn't screw that up. Instead of having a path to exit off at a particular road (Loop 1 / Mopac & 24th Street / Windsor) where you exit via an offramp, and then reach an intersection by which you make a left or right, At Mopac and Windsor you slow down to 25 mph (I'm surprised they didn't make a 10ft exit ramp for this one) and then pull a tight, small, loop to reach the same exact destination. My horrible attempt at ASCII art (I always pronounced this as ass-key and not a-see):

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Austin's method:

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Screw the dual-names for each road too. As pointed out before, why is each highway given a second name (roads too). You have:
Loop 1 = Mopac
183 = Research Blvd
TX 71 (when you drive further west it changes names again) = Ben White
24th Street = Windsor
26th Street = Dean Keaton (which I'd like to say is quite difficult trying to find the exit off of I-35S at night if you don't know exactly where it is)

I am totally and utterly disgusted with the traffic / road situation here in Austin.
 

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I visit Austin once or twice a year, and find it no worse than any other city of the same size. All cities have growing pains, and Austin is having theirs, huge influx of population, and it takes a while for the infrastructure to cope with the added demands.

I personally think ALL cars should be dis-allowed from the front of airports, there are too many alternatives for airport transportation, for every flier to expect front door service.

If you think Austin is bad, drive down to Houston and sit it that crap, or vacation to San Francisco Bay Area, and see some real crap sitting on a bridge half the day.


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Refering to the Police as pigs generally discloses your whole attitude about them, and nothing they could ever do would make you happy.
 

bigbootydaddy

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dont forget guadalupe (the drag) and MLK. But in every city that has a "downtown", it is all alternating one way streets. Hence the name "downtown". It's the same way in houston, san antonio, galveston, corpus, NYC...(those are the places i know personally).

Austin should just be renamed UT. without UT, its a oversized town. And i love every square inch of it. (cept for the drag rats).

and what is up with I-35....it splits into 2....2 2 lane highways runnnig parrallel for like 2miles....POINTLESS. and those onramps?? they give you like 30 yards to merge into the lane....and there is no real lane, they just feed you into it....more like death ramps.

UT booty
 

burnedout

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I work downtown on 7th and Brazos. Luckily, we are able to use a parking garage.

After work, I go to the Rio Grande Campus of ACC on 12th and Rio Grande. No parking there. BUT, there is parking on 10th. No parking fee after 5:30 pm. All of my classes start at 5:40 pm anyway. I've heard parking is bad on UT campus, even at night. I'll be attending evening classes there beginning next year.

The cops here in Austin are OK. I've seen much worse in other places.

Yes, the traffic sux around here.
 

swayinOtis

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althought i haven't lived in austin for almost 15 years i still smell what you're cooking. it was much like that when i lived there. narrow streets full of pot holes. you want to hear a f-ed up story about austin's famous pot holes? i was driving down riverside one night heading toward's ben white. all of a sudden my car friggin exploded. it was loud and violent and i had to stop immediately. what happened was i hit a g-d pot hole the size of a bomb crater. it was so big and the impact was so sudden and violent (i was going about 40-45) that it caved in my left front WHEEL. the tire of course was flattened, but the damn RIM was crushed in.

i tried to get the city to pay for it but they refused. bastardos.

the one way streets were pure crap, too. i never felt comfortable driving downtown.

oh yeah, one sunday morning i was driving down riverside heading into town (damn riverside was the root of all my troubles. lol). it was narrow and winding there. all of a sudden a female cop jumps out of the road waving me to pull over. it startled me. i pulled over and she gave me a ticket for speeding. lol. i had never been pulled over by someone standing on the side of the road.

i feel your pain.
 

rahvin

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<<We then, hypothetically, have 10,000 vehicles that routinely travel on Austin's piece of sh!t, pot hole-ridden, one-way, 2-laned "roads".>>

If you don't like the condition of the roads ask your local municipality to RAISE taxes to pay for them. Money doesn't grow on trees you know (it grows on cotton bushes thank you very much).

<<I wonder how much money Austin's transportation / DMV department gets from all these fines>>

If they are lucky, enough to cover the costs of the enforcement, maintenance of the meters and if they are really lucky it will pay for the street sweeping as well. BTW cops rarely give parking tickets in big cities, it's almost always a seperate parking enforcement division and they are NOT police officers.

<<This morning I dropped off a friend at the airport. I took her bags in and said goodbye. I was in the airport for perhaps 5 minutes with my car outside the terminal, hazard lights on and engine running. ... So basically you get a parking fine and you get your car towed. For leaving your car unattended for more than a minute.>>

3 months ago 4 airlines were crashed by terrorists, you are LUCKY they didn't arrest your ass and question you for 3 hours for leaving a vehicle at the curb. Don't leave your car! It's a pretty simple rule and only requires a modest amount of common sense.

<<You know, after getting home from the airport this morning, I took the WC shuttle to work. On the way from 26th street to 21st street, I saw five parking tickets on five different cars. My my, our enforcement officers are sure hard at work.>>

Guess there are LOTS of people like you that think they are above the parking laws. You are welcome to violate those laws, but it has a cost associated with it.

<<If they're fining so many people, why aren't the words any better? Where does all that money go?>>

Do you have the foggiest Idea how much road maintenance costs? As stated above parking ticket revenues often barely cover the enforcement.

<<Where does all the money from safety inspections go again?>>

To the mechanic that did the inspection, if you find mechanics that cheat, report them and they will lose certification to do the inspections.

<<Whoever came up with the double-decker I-35 idea with 10 ft entrance / exit ramps? Who intersects roads with "highways" (Loop 1 / south Mopac, TX71 / Ben White, 183 / Research Blvd) and puts stop lights everywhere? Why don't they build overpasses and just have the intersecting roads go underneat the highway? Woah! That's a new concept.>>

Engineers want to do what's right, the real question you are asking is why don't tax payers want to have their taxes raised to pay for overpasses or correct designs. Ask yourself how much more in taxes you would be willing to pay. Overpasses are expensive, a typical overpass in an urban area can run upwards of 50 million dollars for just the engineering/construction, throw in Right-of-way and other misc expenses and you will probably go over 100million (depending on R/W costs). The people who use that interchange should pay for it, think about how many people use it per day and how much your share of that would be with a 40 year design life.
 

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<< EDIT:
Refering to the Police as pigs generally discloses your whole attitude about them, and nothing they could ever do would make you happy.
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I play raquetball with a few friends in the UTPD and I still gripe at them about my parking tickets. I don't hate them, I just hate parking tickets.
 

AncientPC

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<< dont forget guadalupe (the drag) and MLK. But in every city that has a "downtown", it is all alternating one way streets. Hence the name "downtown". It's the same way in houston, san antonio, galveston, corpus, NYC...(those are the places i know personally). >>



UT is not downtown, and you in west campus you find crowded one way streets surrounded by frat houses and no lighting. It is impossible to find directions to anywhere around there unless you know exactly where you're going.
 

AncientPC

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rahvin: Did you know that parking in Austin has become so bad that the state legislature capped the
limit of revenue from fines to a certain percentage of total revenue? The rest has to be kicked back to the state. So long as the excessive fines remain in state hands, there is an incentive to get easy money from that.
 

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If they had given me a ticket for parking the car in front of an airport, I understand. What bothers me the most is the fact that they gave me a ticket when I was in view of my own car. :(
 

swayinOtis

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a couple of questions about Austin:

1) is Mueller still the airport? i thought i read it closed and they built a new one.

2) what was the name of that natural spring, Barton Springs? we used to LOVE that place. there's something crazy about freezing cold water.

3) is Monkey Town still the place people go for drugs? lol

 

AncientPC

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<< a couple of questions about Austin:

1) is Mueller still the airport? i thought i read it closed and they built a new one.

2) what was the name of that natural spring, Barton Springs? we used to LOVE that place. there's something crazy about freezing cold water.

3) is Monkey Town still the place people go for drugs? lol
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1) no

2) yes

3) I wouldn't know
 

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Just wanted to state that I am amused by the fact that you admit to breaking the law several times, and get pissed when you get busted.

If you want to break the laws, you should be prepared to pay the piper.


I travel around the country every week. Every airport has a rule: DO NOT LEAVE CARS UNATTENDED AT THE CURB. It doesn't say, YOU CAN LEAVE YOUR CAR UNATTENDED FOR 4 MINUTES.

Bite the bullet and pay the $1.75 for a parking spot.

Paul
 

rahvin

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<<rahvin: Did you know that parking in Austin has become so bad that the state legislature capped the
limit of revenue from fines to a certain percentage of total revenue? The rest has to be kicked back to the state. So long as the excessive fines remain in state hands, there is an incentive to get easy money from that.>>

Parking fines are to discourage you from parking illegally, they are rarely to collect revenue. As I told you, many municipalities barely break even on the parking enforcement. The high fines and stiff enforcement is because there are a lot of people like you that think you can park anywhere at any time. Parking hurts capacity on the streets and can cause accidents. In addition Austin (if I'm not mistaken) has a huge pollution problem and they are trying to get people out of their cars. Eliminating parking is a way to encourage mass transit.

<<If they had given me a ticket for parking the car in front of an airport, I understand. What bothers me the most is the fact that they gave me a ticket when I was in view of my own car. >>

Every airport in the country constantly blares messages over the PA system saying that curbside is for active loading and unloading ONLY, that all stoping or waiting is prohibitied and I would certainly believe abandoning your car qualifies as waiting. What the hell do you think short term parking is for? You are NOT above the rules, you are not special.
 

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<< If they had given me a ticket for parking the car in front of an airport, I understand. What bothers me the most is the fact that they gave me a ticket when I was in view of my own car. :( >>



right... and I'm sure that cop knew it was your car, and knew that you were just right inside the door, and knew that it was a perfectly safe car. They have rules for a reason. You break the rules, you pay the fine. Don't want to pay the fine? Don't break the rules. Pretty simple eh?