I bought the BA-4800's last month. Best PC speakers out there, imho. Maybe not the loudest, and maybe they don't have the strongest "bump"... But they have the best clarity, accuracy, and mid-range. (NOTE: I haven't heard the Scirocco's, but they were out of my price range anyway.)
"I do not use computer speakers as they all sound like sh*t."
I am not sure which ones you have listened to, but the Klipsch, Videologic, and Boston Accoustics speakers hardly sound like sh*t. Sure, a home theater set-up will be best, but these high-end PC speakers do a pretty damn good job. I am in the process of setting up a 8.2 Klipsch set-up and I have a good feeling it won't sound like sh*t. People that don't like the sound of the Klipsch are usually bothered by the highs produced by the horn tweeter, they sound different to different peoples ears. For instance, Wingznut PEZ thought the BA4800's sounded better than his Klipsch's and he returned them and kept the BA's. I did the complete opposite, I had the BA4800's and after hearing the Promedia's, the BA's went back in the box. Everyone is different, but these high-end PC speakers we are discussing hardly sound like sh*t. Just my opinion.
I am not sure which ones you have listened to, but the Klipsch, Videologic, and Boston Accoustics speakers hardly sound like sh*t. Sure, a home theater set-up will be best, but these high-end PC speakers do a pretty damn good job. I am in the process of setting up a 8.2 Klipsch set-up and I have a good feeling it won't sound like sh*t. People that don't like the sound of the Klipsch are usually bothered by the highs produced by the horn tweeter, they sound different to different peoples ears. For instance, Wingznut PEZ thought the BA4800's sounded better than his Klipsch's and he returned them and kept the BA's. I did the complete opposite, I had the BA4800's and after hearing the Promedia's, the BA's went back in the box. Everyone is different, but these high-end PC speakers we are discussing hardly sound like sh*t. Just my opinion.
I have to agree with Insane3D (though I think the BA4800's b1tchslap the ProMedias 
but we are all entitled to our own opinions right? ). Your average computer speaker set like most of Altec's stuff and anything from Creative and certainly anything you find in the $15 section at BB all sound like crap....but the good qualitiy stuff, the BA-4800s, the VideoLogic stuff, the ProMedias (if you like the type of sound they produce) are all good speakers, especially when you factor in price. A good home theatre set will rock any of these, but it will cost alot more to.
but we are all entitled to our own opinions right? ). Your average computer speaker set like most of Altec's stuff and anything from Creative and certainly anything you find in the $15 section at BB all sound like crap....but the good qualitiy stuff, the BA-4800s, the VideoLogic stuff, the ProMedias (if you like the type of sound they produce) are all good speakers, especially when you factor in price. A good home theatre set will rock any of these, but it will cost alot more to.Noriaki!
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Wingznut and I had been discussing these choices before he bought his BA's and I've long been an advocate for Boston Acoustics. You simply can't get better sounding speakers for the price and size of these. I'm in the process of upgrading my home theatre at the moment and it's going to sound awesome when I'm finished. I've listened to tons of multimedia speakers out there, and can honestly saw I've probably LIKED maybe 6 sets of them, enough to listen to them all the time. the AL ADA885's sound pretty good but for over $200 are not worth it, the BA4800's are amazing, the ACS54's I bought last night are the best $79 speakers i've ever heard (wouldn't want to listen to them all the time but they sounded pretty nice), the Klipsch are bearable but those tweeters just hurt my ears and the sound is tinny and not warm at all.. for $249 I wouldn ever own these.... the bass is humongous but without accurate highs and mids this really means nothing.... and it's boomy... I haven't heard the scirocco's or the midiland's but those are both $400 systems. For $400 I would rather own a nice Dolby digital receiver. Once you start spending that sort of money on multimedia you might as well start building your home theatre.
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Wingznut and I had been discussing these choices before he bought his BA's and I've long been an advocate for Boston Acoustics. You simply can't get better sounding speakers for the price and size of these. I'm in the process of upgrading my home theatre at the moment and it's going to sound awesome when I'm finished. I've listened to tons of multimedia speakers out there, and can honestly saw I've probably LIKED maybe 6 sets of them, enough to listen to them all the time. the AL ADA885's sound pretty good but for over $200 are not worth it, the BA4800's are amazing, the ACS54's I bought last night are the best $79 speakers i've ever heard (wouldn't want to listen to them all the time but they sounded pretty nice), the Klipsch are bearable but those tweeters just hurt my ears and the sound is tinny and not warm at all.. for $249 I wouldn ever own these.... the bass is humongous but without accurate highs and mids this really means nothing.... and it's boomy... I haven't heard the scirocco's or the midiland's but those are both $400 systems. For $400 I would rather own a nice Dolby digital receiver. Once you start spending that sort of money on multimedia you might as well start building your home theatre.
divinemartyr
Well I do think all computer speakers(now at least) sound like sh*t. And the Klipsh in particular sound like toys, and they are built like toys. The tweeters are thin and harsh, and the mids are nonexistent, and the bass is boomy and muddy. There is not a hint of warmth. And I wont even mention flatness of response because it is so remote. what astounds me is the cheapness of the tweeters, god look at those things. They look like those cheap small tweets on replacement car speakers you pass on the shelves at K-Mart. Well enough about that. To each his own.
The Bostons are much warmer and are good for the price if sound is not imperative. These will get you buy for something to listen to. A little music and some games.
I am not one of those "high end" snobs, that thinks all speakers are inferior if they do not cost a fortune. All of my stuff is relativly inexpensive. I am just very sensitive to sound. And bad sound(to my ears) drives me up a wall. I know good sound, and can judge it when I hear it. So I don't need to go by reviewer's opinions. This way I can audition speakers that I can afford, that out perform speakers that cost 5 times as much.
Right now computer speakers are toys. They are needed for games and multimedia that is hot and will only get hotter. But If sound is important to you in the least, look to another solution.
The Bostons are much warmer and are good for the price if sound is not imperative. These will get you buy for something to listen to. A little music and some games.
I am not one of those "high end" snobs, that thinks all speakers are inferior if they do not cost a fortune. All of my stuff is relativly inexpensive. I am just very sensitive to sound. And bad sound(to my ears) drives me up a wall. I know good sound, and can judge it when I hear it. So I don't need to go by reviewer's opinions. This way I can audition speakers that I can afford, that out perform speakers that cost 5 times as much.
Right now computer speakers are toys. They are needed for games and multimedia that is hot and will only get hotter. But If sound is important to you in the least, look to another solution.
"And the Klipsh in particular sound like toys, and they are built like toys"
Well, everyone has their opinion and they are entitled to it, but I think you are way off here MADCAP. To say the Klipsch sound like "toys" is a little extreme. If you don't like their particular sound, that's fine...but I think there are plenty of people who will disagree with you. As far as the quality of these speakers, if you think they are cheap and not well made, then I am not sure you have really checked them out. I know some people don't like the sound they reproduce, but they are very high quality speakers in my opinion, as are the BA's and the Videologic. Do you have any idea how long Klipsch has been making speakers and the top of the line speakers that they put out? Same with Boston Accoustics, top notch company and products. Also, some will argue that the THX certification is just a marketing gimmick, but I believe it is a quality standard that they have to meet to get that certification. I would imagine any old computer speaker setup would be THX certified if it were that easy to get it. I am not trying to start a "speaker war" or anything, but to me your comments are not based in fact at all. My .02.
Well, everyone has their opinion and they are entitled to it, but I think you are way off here MADCAP. To say the Klipsch sound like "toys" is a little extreme. If you don't like their particular sound, that's fine...but I think there are plenty of people who will disagree with you. As far as the quality of these speakers, if you think they are cheap and not well made, then I am not sure you have really checked them out. I know some people don't like the sound they reproduce, but they are very high quality speakers in my opinion, as are the BA's and the Videologic. Do you have any idea how long Klipsch has been making speakers and the top of the line speakers that they put out? Same with Boston Accoustics, top notch company and products. Also, some will argue that the THX certification is just a marketing gimmick, but I believe it is a quality standard that they have to meet to get that certification. I would imagine any old computer speaker setup would be THX certified if it were that easy to get it. I am not trying to start a "speaker war" or anything, but to me your comments are not based in fact at all. My .02.
this might be a little OT from strangeranger's question, but i was wondering what the audiophiles while they're here felt about the Midiland S4-8200's? i've been debating between those and my klipsch, and after hearing quite a few caps on the promedias i was wondering if the Midilands might be a better choice (i've never heard them).
as for boston the only ones i've heard were the BA4800's very briefly at a friend's, and just like to re-affirm that they can't be dissapointing, especially at the price range.
as for boston the only ones i've heard were the BA4800's very briefly at a friend's, and just like to re-affirm that they can't be dissapointing, especially at the price range.
divinemartyr: yeah, I like to mix it up a bit.
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It's nice to see a few more people agree with me about the BA4800s being nicer than the promedias...but where have you been all the times I've been trying to convince people of that, to an overwhelming flood of "Klispch rock all else", "Klipsch rules", "Klipsch is the best" and my personal favourite "Klipsh ownz j00!". Heheheh well they aren't all that bad a few of them actually explain why they like the ProMedias the best..but it seems alot of people are either mob mentality or they like the big numbers
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It's nice to see a few more people agree with me about the BA4800s being nicer than the promedias...but where have you been all the times I've been trying to convince people of that, to an overwhelming flood of "Klispch rock all else", "Klipsch rules", "Klipsch is the best" and my personal favourite "Klipsh ownz j00!". Heheheh well they aren't all that bad a few of them actually explain why they like the ProMedias the best..but it seems alot of people are either mob mentality or they like the big numbers
i don't know if i can say on steady ground that the BA4800s are better then the klipsches, especially since i haven't tested them thoroughly myself. but it's a little hard since they are in quite different price brackets
This is all kind of meaningless because if a set of speakers sounds the best to you after listening to them, then who cares if no else in the world likes them. Do you buy your speakers for everyone else? I don't feel the need to say one is better or worse than the other, I try to only point out the differences so someone can make an objective decision. Just because a particular set sounds better to me, I don't expect them to be the best for everyone. Noriaki, what's the point of trying to convince someone one set is better than the other? If you like the BA's better, than that is all that should matter to you. If you suggest them to someone else, just tell them how your expereince with them has been and leave it at that. I do agree it is annoying to hear things like those "rule", or that "is suck", it is totally unhelpful in my opinion. Not trying to offend anyone here, I just think with something as subjective as speakers, the person who is going to have to listen to them day in and day out should get what they feel is "best".
If you are not satisfied with computer speakers then you will have to go with component audio which means a receiver, 4 sats, and a sub. The hardest part about it is the reveiver. You need a receiver with special connects (forgot the name) to be able to connect to a 3d soundcard like the Live! The only other issue (besides price) is that you need to pick shielded speakers. This is the way I went and I am very pleased. There are ways to go about it and save a little cash. I spent about as much as I would have if I had bought the videologic crossfires and yet I have much better sound and a good receiver to amplify my headphones. There is no computer speaker that can match component setups and I have heard or owned all of best ones. For examples I owned the S2-4100 by Midiland before this and I thought it was good till I built this custom setup.
There has been much talk of this lately at 3dsoundsurge forums. I will link you to what is probably the best thread on the subject.
3dsoundsurge
There has been much talk of this lately at 3dsoundsurge forums. I will link you to what is probably the best thread on the subject.
3dsoundsurge
I'm just saying there are degrees here. Computer speakers, and especialy the Klipsh's are toys. Just because Klipsh makes mid-high end speakers doesn't make them all good. Actually I find their high end ones a bit too harsh also. Klipsh saw a market they could get into and make money. Especially off of their name. Considering the state of computer speakers they could make another cheaply made product and stamp their name on it, and people will flock to it. Physicaly they are made cheaply. If you know how to look at the actual drivers and cabinets and know how they will sound basically before you turn them on, and then turn them on and are greated by the same sound you envisioned, then you will know. The drivers probably cost them pennies to produce and molded plastic sucks as a cabinet(again cheaply produced). Those tiny mylar tweeters make me cringe.
Just because Chevy can make a car like the corvette doesn't make a metro have similar performance, or comparing a Lexus to a Tercel because Toyota makes both of them. A metro is a toy car. It will get you around, but if you like to drive, you should look elsewhere.
I'm glad you like your Klipsh's. And I am envious of your higher threshold of pain. Because they definatly hurt my ears.
Anyway this is here nor there, as he was looking for another solution that will fit his needs, as he is aware that computer speakers wont do it already. Trying to convice him otherwise will be futile(kind of like convincing me now ).
Good luck guys, I hope you all find your bliss.
Just because Chevy can make a car like the corvette doesn't make a metro have similar performance, or comparing a Lexus to a Tercel because Toyota makes both of them. A metro is a toy car. It will get you around, but if you like to drive, you should look elsewhere.
I'm glad you like your Klipsh's. And I am envious of your higher threshold of pain.
Because they definatly hurt my ears.Anyway this is here nor there, as he was looking for another solution that will fit his needs, as he is aware that computer speakers wont do it already. Trying to convice him otherwise will be futile(kind of like convincing me now
).Good luck guys, I hope you all find your bliss.
Hahahahah I was just joking around Insane3D. You are right of course, it's how they sound to you that matters.
I personally like the BA-4800s for their more neutral sound response, but I know at least one guy that hates them for that same reason. He likes the ProMedias for their exagerated Bass. And I respect his opinion. He specifically likes the ProMedias for a trait I dislike but we are all entitled to our opinions. He doesn't like them becuase they are "da bomb!" or because the mob told him to, much less because they have a 400 Watt RMS rating.
The only thing I've really tried to convince people of is to look past the mob and decide on what they want, if they still choose the ProMedia's good for them just as long as they don't pick it becuase 200 little kids that have never heard any other speakers told him that "they rule".
I personally like the BA-4800s for their more neutral sound response, but I know at least one guy that hates them for that same reason. He likes the ProMedias for their exagerated Bass. And I respect his opinion. He specifically likes the ProMedias for a trait I dislike but we are all entitled to our opinions. He doesn't like them becuase they are "da bomb!" or because the mob told him to, much less because they have a 400 Watt RMS rating.
The only thing I've really tried to convince people of is to look past the mob and decide on what they want, if they still choose the ProMedia's good for them
just as long as they don't pick it becuase 200 little kids that have never heard any other speakers told him that "they rule".I totally agree with you, it is sometimes hard to convince people to look past what everyone says is "the best", and look at alternatives that are a better choice for them. They fixate on wattage and what "rocks" and "rulez" according to everyone and just go blindly drop the cash without even botherning to check out alternatives...especially something so subjective as speakers. I actually prefer the PM's not only because of the strong bass, but mainly for the wide signal response and yes, I actually enjoy the sound of the higher range out of the PM's. I know these types of tweeters will bother some people's ears, but for my ears and the type of music I listen too, they sound great to me.
BTW-Did you pick up a AE card yet?
BTW-Did you pick up a AE card yet?
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