Audio of the explosives which brought down WTC 7

[al981]

Also, pictures of the steel hauled to Staten Island does not show the 'tell tale' signs of cutting nor explosive events having occurred to them... not one picture reflects this and for me that is evidence that can't be simply ignored... IF the towers were exploded floor by floor or even every few floors the steel would reflect this... At least in my universe it would.

I do realize some structures were cut by torches... but I never saw that either.... maybe the pictures that did show that were stolen by the FBI and reside in a box in the corner of some office.

Folks say the interior columns were MASSIVE... ok... that is nice... and I think it would take a MASSIVE amount of explosives to cut or melt them... and all the eye balls watching the trucks go back and forth didn't relate anything about "Look Charlie... that was blown up... "... and if you know New Yorkers... We love a conspiracy...

as romero stated before his retraction, only a few well placed bombs would've been necessary for the manner in which the towers fell. also, the majority of the steel is no longer in possession of the united states. i wonder what percentage of steel made its way to staten? not a whole lot i imagine.

of course, we still have the pesky problem of all those audio recordings of pre collapse explosions and now admitted free fall collapse. 😉

 

[al981]

Another of your quote bastardizations?

Why do you omit the part where sunder talks about how there must be a constant inward force on that thermite to maintain contact with the steel? Why do you feel the need to be deceptive and selectively quote him?

It's because you're a dishonest tool. That's why. That's also why you can't seem to comprehend why what Sunder is saying and the test documented by National Geographic are not in conflict.

So what? Sunder is saying thermite / thermate can in fact bring down a building with a certain mechanism. that is in direct contradicion of national geographic. LOL at the fallacy of your argument. it's like you arguing that romero said: "Terrorists planted bombs, so that completely negates the argument of a controlled demolition." what the fuck are you smoking, moron? 😀😀😀 Man up and pick who is lying its ass off. is it national geographic with their flawed / lying experiment? or is it sunder who directly contradicts national geographic and states clearly that buildings can be brought down with 100 pounds of thermite that melts steel? dodge more, you lying pussy.

Maybe I should begin selectively quoting your tripe? I bet I can distort the holy hell out of what you are actually saying.

Are you some kind of new moron? I've already explained to you that FEMA did not confirm any melting of the steel. We've been over this and yet you STILL don't fucking get it. What is your major malfunction boy?

The steel melted, as admitted by FEMA numerous times. You are the only one denying that basic fact. If the steel didn't melt, then you are claiming FEMA used the wrong wording. hop to it, kid. go write to fema and tell them to change their wording, you pussy liar.

And another week goes by and you're still the same ignorant fool making specious claims that you can't back up and don't even comprehend in the first place. Go figure.

This is going nowhere. You're so thoroughly drunk on the truther kool-aid you can't even recognize reality any longer. Bring something new to the table, like actual evidence, but stop wasting my time with crap such as "sounds like" or he said-she said bullshit.

LOL like i said, round and round the dodger goes!

here, let me repost this since you continue dodging these simple challenges. keep dodging pussy!


"hahaha. round and round the dodging pussy goes again! i just threw a simple challenge in your face, and you have chosen to dodge it for months. just like how you dodged the simple acknowledgements that the pre collapse explosions caught on audio in kyle's original post directly contradict NISTs claims that no explosions on audio exist. dodge more. pussy.

edit: another week goes by, another dodge of my response regarding romero. like i said, you dodge 90% of the facts i post because you don't have a clue what you're talking about, and can't face facts that destroy blatant government lies 🙂

edit 2: damn, i'm still laughing my ass off about your romero argument. tell me Lyingchicken, how does Romero claiming that "terrorists" planted a few bombs in the towers work against the argument of a demolition? LMFAO. DODGE INC! afk until tomorrow at the earliest... when i return, let's count how many times the proven Liar dodges and will not answer any of the facts from this post.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

snip

:yawn;

Still wasting my time with your hot air.

 

[al981]

:yawn;

Still wasting my time with your hot air.

yeah another dodge, that's what i thought, you pussy. edit: you got owned!

surely you can come up with a few rebuttals to all your contradictions i just pointed out. i'll give you a few days since i'll be busy. hop to it, pussy.

 

[LunarRay]

as romero stated before his retraction, only a few well placed bombs would've been necessary for the manner in which the towers fell. also, the majority of the steel is no longer in possession of the united states. i wonder what percentage of steel made its way to staten? not a whole lot i imagine.

of course, we still have the pesky problem of all those audio recordings of pre collapse explosions and now admitted free fall collapse. 😉

I don't know how much steel made it to the dump on Staten Island, actually. The only part of that operation I know for sure is that the trucks hauling the stuff went somewhere under very tight control.
The route I'd expect they'd take would be across the bridge to Brooklyn on to the Narrows bridge and to the dump. I think my sister said that she saw steel on barges... that was early on when she said it... like maybe end of '01 or early '02...
Ok... if there was only limited placement then I'd not expect there to be signs on darn near every piece.
In the towers:
Aside from the molten stuff ... the anomalies that I'm still wondering about are: Assuming a Bazant scenario... I'd like to have seen some rather long central core columns found and what was found seems to have broken at the 32' welds in all or most cases.. The destruction to the metal parts of all most all if not all the vehicles in the area mainly roof and hood and trunk areas...
Who ever uttered the word 'explosion' in video or audio captures need to be asked what they really meant... aside from those who spoke to the flashes etc.. cuz they mean detonations. And on that issue why did no one inside the buildings relate explosive devices... I guess cuz there were none where they were... duh!!
IF there were detonations of any magnitude why don't I see that reflected in the windows of the floors it occurred on... assuming pre collapse events.
What made floor sections fail way down below the impact zone.. like floor 27 I think it was that hit some fire people in the stairway... maybe it was a lower floor... but the Rodriguez guy found them another stairway to use.. Engine 10 guys.
Five minutes after the plane hit or a bit longer there was an explosion on the ground floor... and it was a fire event it seems... folks were alive as they scrambled out the elevators... that seems too long a time for jet fuel to be the cause.
What was floor 34 used for? It was empty of offices (Tower two, I think I was told) Not that that is all that important but it seems odd for some reason. The length of time it was empty that is.
How do massive sections fly 600' and embed into other structures.. what energy did that...
There are a few others but the main one above all the rest of them is: There is only so much potential energy available to become kinetic and I can't grasp how the buildings came down so fast... and do all that they did to the stuff inside of them... Sporadic floor collapses preceding the full collapse is one thing but the 'cone of devastation' (the pulverization) seems to occur floor by floor over only 10 or so seconds... and No Jolt... As the top disappears downward... iow, it seems as though each floor was made of already pulverized matter.. (Bazant) as the top came through but the core columns also get broken up... and the exterior as well... I can imagine a Bazant event having exterior and interior columns standing up there as the floors collapsed... The energy to do the column structures is rather large...
Bazant only works if the top bit never meets the lower bit till the end of the journey. The core system seems a bit beyond the collapsing floor bit capability... by an order of magnitude multiple. The exterior does not seem to exhibit that kind of event... to my eye... But, so far it is the best example of how it can happen...

 

[Cogman]

i ... got owned!

Wow, he admitted it!

(behold, the power of selective quotation)

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

yeah another dodge, that's what i thought, you pussy. edit: you got owned!

surely you can come up with a few rebuttals to all your contradictions i just pointed out. i'll give you a few days since i'll be busy. hop to it, pussy.

There is no need to rebutt anyone such as yourself who so deceitfully and dishonestly bastardizes quotes and takes statements out of context. I don't need to own you, though I have time and time again. You're one big self-ownage package all by yourself, little boy.

Good to see you'll be busy. I hope mommy and daddy pick you up from summer camp on time. Good luck.

 

[al981]

There is no need to rebutt anyone such as yourself who so deceitfully and dishonestly bastardizes quotes and takes statements out of context. I don't need to own you, though I have time and time again. You're one big self-ownage package all by yourself, little boy.

Good to see you'll be busy. I hope mommy and daddy pick you up from summer camp on time. Good luck.

Wow, he admitted it!

(behold, the power of selective quotation)

LoL. So LyingChicken, notice you continue to dodge these points in which you accuse me of "dishonestly" omitting.

1)You accused me of omitting how Romero stated "Terrorists" planted a few well placed bombs to bring down the towers, and that omitting the word "terrorists" somehow qualifies as distortion. So, how exactly does that work against the argument of a demolition? Go ahead, explain how the word "Terrorists" negates his statement of a "few well placed bombs" and a demolition. LMFAO. dodge inc again, pussy.

2) Once again, you have lied by stating I somehow "bastardized" Sunder's direct contradiction to national geographic's pathetic failed experiment they are backing. Again, Sunder is saying the application of thermite / thermate with certain mechanism can in fact bring down a building (and logically raises the possibilities for numerous other mechanisms) , and it directly contradicts national geographic's claim that it is not possible for thermite to bring down a building. Go ahead, explain how I "distorted" anything, when it only makes the contradiction even clearer. Oh wait, you couldn't explain it before, so you made up delusional claims of "distortion! dishonesty! bastardized quotes!" to dodge. Lulz. Hilariously pathetic.

3) Notice all the other facts you dodged in post #1377, including, once again: "i just threw a simple challenge in your face [jfk], and you have chosen to dodge it for months. just like how you dodged the simple acknowledgements that the pre collapse explosions caught on audio in kyle's original post directly contradict NISTs claims that no explosions on audio exist. dodge more. pussy."

yeah, you got owned! dodge more, lying pussy.

 

[Kirby]

14 pages of lulz

 

[Docnasty]

NIST has finally released never before seen videos of the WTC7 collapse after facing threat of a lawsuit from the international center for 9/11 studies. In this video you can hear the explosion in the distance, followed by the collapse of the rooftop penthouse, then you can see the windows all popping out especially on the left side and then the building collapses in on itself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrnmbUDeHus&feature=player_embedded#at=32

 

[Cogman]

NIST has finally released never before seen videos of the WTC7 collapse after facing threat of a lawsuit from the international center for 9/11 studies. In this video you can hear the explosion in the distance, followed by the collapse of the rooftop penthouse, then you can see the windows all popping out especially on the left side and then the building collapses in on itself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrnmbUDeHus&feature=player_embedded#at=32

I honestly didn't hear a thing. Maybe you need a little help hearing what a demolitions explosion sounds like. here you go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ng5qwtR59A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF55_-OAX5A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkiwNxfB4GM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6449270076349123045#

Please listen to those before you claim that you can "hear" an explosion.

 

[Docnasty]

I honestly didn't hear a thing. Maybe you need a little help hearing what a demolitions explosion sounds like. here you go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ng5qwtR59A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF55_-OAX5A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkiwNxfB4GM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6449270076349123045#

Please listen to those before you claim that you can "hear" an explosion.

Big deal, the people in your videos have better recording equipment. Notice that you can hear BOTH explosion AND debris collapsing whereas in my video all you hear is a faint boom and no debris collapsing. Obviously in my video the camera is either further away or the camera's microphone wasn't of quality to pick up the audio at that distance.

Disregarding the audio WTC7 looks exactly like the demolitions you posted: structural collapse in on itself followed by pyroclastic flow/debris. Looks like a controlled demolition, sounds like one from what we can hear, but must have been caused by ... fire? Look at this video it shows WTC7 up close before it collapsed, obviously the building has sustained minor damage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZduP7HTM3cg&feature=player_embedded

 

[Cogman]

Big deal, the people in your videos have better recording equipment. Notice that you can hear BOTH explosion AND debris collapsing whereas in my video all you hear is a faint boom and no debris collapsing. Obviously in my video the camera is either further away or the camera's microphone wasn't of quality to pick up the audio at that distance.

Like hell they did. Did you even watch all the videos? Most of them you CAN'T hear the buildings falling, and most of them were crappy cam-corder recording from about the same distance as yours.

Disregarding the audio WTC7 looks exactly like the demolitions you posted: structural collapse in on itself followed by pyroclastic flow/debris. Looks like a controlled demolition, sounds like one from what we can hear, but must have been caused by ... fire? Look at this video it shows WTC7 up close before it collapsed, obviously the building has sustained minor damage.

Please re-read the last 56 pages of why your theory is retarded in this thread.

 

[al981]

I honestly didn't hear a thing. Maybe you need a little help hearing what a demolitions explosion sounds like. here you go

Then you are using shitty headphones or speakers, are deaf, or just flat out lying, as I can hear deep booms / explosions in the first few seconds of docnasty's link. feel free to start at the beginning of the video too 🙂

oh cogman, of course you'll have to lie about not hearing any deep thunder sounds / pre collapse explosions in kyle's original post too.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sI2gP7_xdA#t=1m48s

now, given the fact explosions can be heard before the collapse started, the pre collapse explosions caught on audio in kyle's original post directly contradict NISTs claims that no explosions on audio exist.

go ahead, man up and admit it 🙂

Please re-read the last 56 pages of why your theory is retarded in this thread.

docnasty, see my sig for why cogman is a moron. even xjohnx, the biggest moron in this thread, destroyed cogman's ridiculous statement in my sig.

 

[Cogman]

Then you are using shitty headphones or speakers, are deaf, or just flat out lying, as I can hear deep booms / explosions in the first few seconds of docnasty's link. feel free to start at the beginning of the video too 🙂

oh cogman, of course you'll have to lie about not hearing any deep thunder sounds / pre collapse explosions in kyle's original post too.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sI2gP7_xdA#t=1m48s

now, given the fact explosions can be heard before the collapse started, the pre collapse explosions caught on audio in kyle's original post directly contradict NISTs claims that no explosions on audio exist.

go ahead, man up and admit it 🙂

docnasty, see my sig for why cogman is a moron. even xjohnx, the biggest moron in this thread, destroyed cogman's ridiculous statement in my sig.

Again, compare the sounds you hear in the videos to the sound you hear in kyles. To ASSUME that it is an explosion proves how retarded you are. But yeah, JFK, so obviously I'm wrong about this 🙄

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

NIST has finally released never before seen videos of the WTC7 collapse after facing threat of a lawsuit from the international center for 9/11 studies. In this video you can hear the explosion in the distance, followed by the collapse of the rooftop penthouse, then you can see the windows all popping out especially on the left side and then the building collapses in on itself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrnmbUDeHus&feature=player_embedded#at=32

Nothing in that video sounded anything like explosions. There was a muffled low rumbling, which is what you would expect to hear when the structural elements of a building are failing, but no explosions. Explosions make very sharp, distinct reports, not muffled low rumbling sounds.

The windows don't start breaking until AFTER the collapse begins. Once the building begins breaking apart you'd expect some of the windows to break as well.

Nothing in that video shows evidence of any demolitions.

 

[al981]

Again, compare the sounds you hear in the videos to the sound you hear in kyles. To ASSUME that it is an explosion proves how retarded you are. But yeah, JFK, so obviously I'm wrong about this 🙄

Different cameras, distances, microphones, and decibel levels, but the fact remains explosions are caught on audio for wtc7 by numerous cameras before any collapse started. you can invent whatever phantom reason you want for what caused said explosions, but the explosions are still on audio, and directly contradicts NIST's lie that no explosions were ever caught on audio.

But yeah, JFK, so obviously I'm wrong about this 🙄

yeah, your jfk statement was rather bad...jesus h. don't ever open your mouth about jfk again... self ownage at its finest.

 

[al981]

Nothing in that video sounded anything like explosions. There was a muffled low rumbling, which is what you would expect to hear when the structural elements of a building are failing, but no explosions. Explosions make very sharp, distinct reports, not muffled low rumbling sounds.

The windows don't start breaking until AFTER the collapse begins. Once the building begins breaking apart you'd expect some of the windows to break as well.

Nothing in that video shows evidence of any demolitions.

only to a proven, delusional liar that continues to dodge the facts in my post, including issues on romero, sunder, and the fact that pre collapse explosions and deep thunders are caught on audio for wtc7.

edit: explosions make a wide variety of sounds, including deep thunders like those in kyle's original post. edit2: any way you spin it, NIST is lying when they claim no explosions are on audio. dodge more, pussy.

 

[Cogman]

Different cameras, distances, microphones, and decibel levels, but the fact remains explosions are caught on audio for wtc7 by numerous cameras before any collapse started. you can invent whatever phantom reason you want for what caused said explosions, but the explosions are still on audio, and directly contradicts NIST's lie that no explosions were ever caught on audio.



yeah, your jfk statement was rather bad...jesus h. don't ever open your mouth about jfk again... self ownage at its finest.

See my sig on why you are a retard.

 

[Cogman]

only to a proven, delusional liar that continues to dodge the facts in my post, including issues on romero, sunder, and the fact that pre collapse explosions and deep thunders are caught on audio for wtc7.

edit: explosions make a wide variety of sounds, including deep thunders like those in kyle's original post. edit2: any way you spin it, NIST is lying when they claim no explosions are on audio. dodge more, pussy.

Ok, here is the challenge then. Post a link to a video of a tower collapse that sounds like 9/11 and is a known explosives demolition. good luck.

 

[al981]

See my sig on why you are a retard.

LOL ok... your sig proves NIST is lying. mine proves the us government is lying with regards to jfk, and shows you are a proven moron.

thanks! ^^ hope you keep it there forever. i know i'm keeping your retarded statement in my sig until anandtech goes offline ^^

 

[Cogman]

LOL ok... your sig proves NIST is lying. mine proves the us government is lying with regards to jfk, and shows you are a proven moron.

thanks! ^^ hope you keep it there forever. i know i'm keeping your retarded statement in my sig until anandtech goes offline ^^

Laugh it up chuckles, I'm not the one that tried to prove 9/11 was a cover up because of the JFK assassination.

Got any deep rumbling explosions yet?

 

[al981]

Laugh it up chuckles, I'm not the one that tried to prove 9/11 was a cover up because of the JFK assassination.

Got any deep rumbling explosions yet?

nobody ever tried to prove 9/11 was a cover-up based on the fact that jfk was a cover-up. it was a simple challenge to corner you into admitting basic facts 🙂 you took the jfk challenge and failed miserably. try again kid!

grats on getting owned though!

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

only to a proven, delusional liar that continues to dodge the facts in my post, including issues on romero, sunder, and the fact that pre collapse explosions and deep thunders are caught on audio for wtc7.

edit: explosions make a wide variety of sounds, including deep thunders like those in kyle's original post. edit2: any way you spin it, NIST is lying when they claim no explosions are on audio. dodge more, pussy.

You've already been shown to be a purposefully deceptive and willfully dishonest piece of crap who's so drunk on the truther kool-aid you couldn't recognize a fact if it walloped you upside your pimply face. Your sole retort in here is calling the people in here who have owned you repeatedly "liars" and "pussies." What a brave little e-punk you are, anonymously hiding behind your keyboard.

🙄

 

[Cogman]

nobody ever tried to prove 9/11 was a cover-up based on the fact that jfk was a cover-up. it was a simple challenge to corner you into admitting basic facts 🙂 you took the jfk challenge and failed miserably. try again kid!

grats on getting owned though!

I'm taking it one point at a time. You claimed that there are deep rumbling explosions. Prove it.