Audio of the explosives which brought down WTC 7

[LunarRay]

Either it was compounded to explode as a conventional explosive, or it was used to burn through steel, one, or the other, funny thing is one contradicts the other so it's just Truthers swinging back and forth depending on which version they are arguing.

It seems to me that regardless of the potential to use Nanostuff IN the buildings to cause collapse you'd think the folks on the ground and in the buildings might have wondered about seeing that kind of stuff all nicely waiting for the proper time to explode... folks were in the core sections.... that is where the stairs are.... They heard all manner of sounds... Some called it 'explosions' and that is probably a good word for it... but that is not to say Explosive Substances made the sounds... Floors falling and other stuff falling do make sounds too. Well, unless there is enough padding to absorb the sounds...

Also, I've been trying to ascertain from a source and based on the buildings in the area what would be the acoustical affect to a microphone of a single sound in the lower frequency range and mid range... of an 'explosion' be... The Echo affect! ... Assuming at creation it was in or about the 110+ decibles range. The off the cuff response was probable echo creation... She said the sound will bounce! But no time to address this issue but rest assured that if there is something to it... you'll see every acoustical expert and wannabe with an analysis... So I await a tad bit more scientific analysis on the latest anomaly of "The Sounds of Silence".

 

[xj0hnx]

As I read it Nano-Thermite lites off and creates molten iron which 'burns' real hot like... There is no evidence of eyeballs seeing stuff melting in the Towers... other than that molten drippy stuff in Tower 2's 80ish floor.

Which was debunked as being molten metal, and shown to be either a UPS, or batteries of some type.

 

[xj0hnx]

Also, I've been trying to ascertain from a source and based on the buildings in the area what would be the acoustical affect to a microphone of a single sound in the lower frequency range and mid range... of an 'explosion' be... The Echo affect! ... Assuming at creation it was in or about the 110+ decibles range. The off the cuff response was probable echo creation... She said the sound will bounce! But no time to address this issue but rest assured that if there is something to it... you'll see every acoustical expert and wannabe with an analysis... So I await a tad bit more scientific analysis on the latest anomaly of "The Sounds of Silence".

The other often forgotten part of an explosion, especially dealing with explosives is that a detonation is a pressure event. I have serious doubts that people inside a building with demolitions going off are going to be telling anyone after wards that they heard anything. Granted, walls and such provide some protection from the event depending on where they were in relation to the demolition, but there's no mistaking it. the other problem with all the eye witness testimony is that all these people heard explosions at different times, some literally hours apart, this is not consistent with a controlled demolition.

 

[LunarRay]

What evidence are you pointing to that indicates there was melted steel?

I think there is evidence regarding STEEL that indicates Steel bent and it should have snapped... Steel eroded due to some condition or conditions to the point of it being an anomaly. Steel columns appear to have undergone a significant heating event at some point in time..
The steel was examined and the opinions are there for all to see. It don't mean it occurred while or very proximate to the buildings collapse events, however.

The bit that supports molten conditions is found in an unbiased thermal imagery done a few days after the event (or day after). It showed surface temps with a few peaks near 1350f... and common sense suggests that 6 stories down it was at least double that probably a lot more than double...

Then added to that are the witnesses that saw directly the molten metal... Not the hearsay evidence but the direct eye witnesses... and the bits you can find like the meteor and like that... Along with video that depicts molten conditions... and the video and audio of a Battalion Chief directing Gunga Din (guys with hoses) to stop spraying the area with water because of the steam generated off the molten metal below and being brought up...

I am currently convinced that there was molten metal at that site... Plus the bit up on the 80ish floor of ONE building.. that was molten stuff too but possibly and probably not from the same cause...

 

[ElFenix]

Then added to that are the witnesses that saw directly the molten metal... Not the hearsay evidence but the direct eye witnesses... and the bits you can find like the meteor and like that... Along with video that depicts molten conditions... and the video and audio of a Battalion Chief directing Gunga Din (guys with hoses) to stop spraying the area with water because of the steam generated off the molten metal below and being brought up...

i don't think that normal people outside of steel mill workers would know the difference between glowing hot and molten metal. iirc, i've seen videos with glowing hot metal, but not actual liquid metal.

and, as i posted the video for earlier, if you apply superheated steam to iron it will catch on fire. it rusts so quickly gobs more energy is given off, which allows it to superheat more steam. so as long as they were pouring water onto a hot pile of iron they were actually freeing more heat.

 

[xj0hnx]

I think what the Truther movement needs to do is all get together, and form the Unified Truther Theory. They can get together and form a consensus of what they as a organized group consider to be the best of the best evidence against the official report. This hogwash of a million different intersecting, and conflicting theories is a bunch of useless distraction, and idiocy.

 

[LunarRay]

The other often forgotten part of an explosion, especially dealing with explosives is that a detonation is a pressure event. I have serious doubts that people inside a building with demolitions going off are going to be telling anyone after wards that they heard anything. Granted, walls and such provide some protection from the event depending on where they were in relation to the demolition, but there's no mistaking it. the other problem with all the eye witness testimony is that all these people heard explosions at different times, some literally hours apart, this is not consistent with a controlled demolition.

There is no way anyone could endure an explosion intended to take out those columns. They'd not report such an occurrance and many folks did report 'sounds'... Nor would there be any windows intact on that floor. The columns were cross braced with all sorts of super duper engineered structural connections... well... except the floors which had a lighter grade concrete than the office area. I can't imagine the quantity of explosives needed to take out a sufficient number of columns to enable collapse...
But, I've a better way to insure collapse of them buildings... the Towers... You hijact some planes and fly them into the center of each tower... about the 80th floor or so... You will not only take out the towers but every building near by as well... I'd use Commercial Airliners... and do it on a day with very low passenger content... All you would need is maybe 4 bad guys per plane. I'd tell the hijackers that virgins await them in heaven... Nuns with shotguns... 🙂

 

[LunarRay]

i don't think that normal people outside of steel mill workers would know the difference between glowing hot and molten metal. iirc, i've seen videos with glowing hot metal, but not actual liquid metal.

and, as i posted the video for earlier, if you apply superheated steam to iron it will catch on fire. it rusts so quickly gobs more energy is given off, which allows it to superheat more steam. so as long as they were pouring water onto a hot pile of iron they were actually freeing more heat.

Well... you're probably right on the glowing stuff... that is not molten ... but it is quite hot... Moonbeam was talking to me earlier about that anomaly and has me thinking that like in a foundry if you can get enough oxygen 'funneled' to a hot spot you can get great leaps of temperature.
He started talking about the bit in your second para.. but had to get to the store... (Moonbeam is quite the Mechanical Minded sort... Or what ever it is that leads one to logical scientific understanding). To tell the truth and DONT let him know.. but if he said, "not to concern yourself about molten anything... I'd expect that in that situation" I'm prone to accept that unchallenged... I've reason to say that, by the way...🙂

 

[LunarRay]

I think what the Truther movement needs to do is all get together, and form the Unified Truther Theory. They can get together and form a consensus of what they as a organized group consider to be the best of the best evidence against the official report. This hogwash of a million different intersecting, and conflicting theories is a bunch of useless distraction, and idiocy.

I suspect you want to destroy their 'unified' theory in one fell swoop and be done with it all..... hehehehehe... By having various theories folks can focus on one aspect and neglect the rest...

I'd not ever ever ever have produced for viewing that model of WTC7... Not that it don't depict a sequence of events... but because it don't look like the actual collapse. (I'm sure it is the interior being displayed but... you know)
Having said that.... the reverse logic suggests that if these Physics and Engineering Ph.D's and Structural Engineers DID provide it... they really must have no problem with it... and folks who don't understand it do.... like me, for instance...

EDIT: I've just got to say this... Anyone who knows the math and looks at Bazant's theory cannot easily walk away from it saying he's an idiot... I can't.. and well, I gots toes and fingers... and know which is where... Differential Calculus is really.. what.. I recall Second year 300 level courses.. I think I'm right. But, that is dang... over 40 yrs ago... Anyhow, the three Calculus courses are required for most upper division majors that use any math... (meaning one should argue what aspect of the math or the science application used with it is wrong)
The Bazant theory works... it really, really does.
Heiwa does not consider what he cannot see.. iow, if he cant see it it didn't happen... that is pseudo logic... as in; the tree fell silently cuz I didn't hear it... I was miles away anyhow...

 

[xj0hnx]

There is no way anyone could endure an explosion intended to take out those columns. They'd not report such an occurrance and many folks did report 'sounds'... Nor would there be any windows intact on that floor.

Pretty much, especially as I doubt they would have bothered hanging the protective tarps to contain debris.

I suspect you want to destroy their 'unified' theory in one fell swoop and be done with it all..... hehehehehe... By having various theories folks can focus on one aspect and neglect the rest...

It gets kind of old here almost ten years later and people are still debating half truths, and flat out lies. Things like the video al981 keeps posting where Sunders is talking about how thermite would have had to be placed around the columns, and then the Einstein that made the video tries to discredit him by showing how linear shape charges are placed on columns. I mean that obviously works on someone like al981 that doesn't have a clue what they are talking about, but even elementary school student could see they are two completely different explosives. If they could come up with a theory that held even a bit of water without having to contradict itself, and rely on other tale tales, but alas it seems that no matter what chain of events they choose to go with it all relies on a controlled demolition of the buildings, which we have seen here is not possible, so it seems that reverse engineered their story is a fail top to bottom.

The Bazant theory works... it really, really does.
Heiwa does not consider what he cannot see.. iow, if he cant see it it didn't happen... that is pseudo logic... as in; the tree fell silently cuz I didn't hear it... I was miles away anyhow...

Heiwa is a complete farce, and you are exactly right. His argument isn't any better than this moron's ...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBuH8NNIBys and for the same reasons. I mean seriously using plastic in/out bins to simulate a fucking building? I kept thinking it HAD to be a joke, but I can't find any indication that the guy isn't serious, other than the fact that it's completely absurd.

 

[LunarRay]

Heiwa is a complete farce, and you are exactly right. His argument isn't any better than this moron's ...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBuH8NNIBys and for the same reasons. I mean seriously using plastic in/out bins to simulate a fucking building? I kept thinking it HAD to be a joke, but I can't find any indication that the guy isn't serious, other than the fact that it's completely absurd.

That had to be a joke... I mean, no rational person would use that analogy to the WTC Towers.. It reminded me of Richard Gage using card board boxes to illustrate the bouncing of the upper bit on the lower one... and the free fall bit... The towers didn't free fall anyhow. They fell about 60ish percent of Free fall.

It is obvious what the motive is of David Griffin or Gage or most of them.. and that is to do with the political belief... They are all hens in the same coop... What better way to get a political jab than to marshall the troops toward one thing... they have a captive audience... It had to be a government job... cuz they are evil. AND, they are making money for their efforts.... lots of it... but that is only normal to do.. so I don't fault them... I just wish everyone would be fair with the evidence... and keep all the evidence related to an issue in the issue's box.. Peek into the box and derive an answer but don't pluck out the bits that don't fit and act like they don't exist... or are not relevant when they are.
That is the problem here... we get video of something... and ok it depicts something but first I'm told what it depicts followed by "so what do you see"... hehehehehe I'm conditioned because I want to see what supports the conclusion I hold... (not me but the greater 'I'...) and so on and so on...

Ah well... Kennedy still died... both of them... and we have exactly the same condition here... anomaly becomes conspiracy... maybe it is and maybe it ain't... but to make it so... you need more evidence that shows the other evidence is not evidence...

 

[al981]

As for my explanation of the camera shaking, here are three:

1) He shook it himself, whether by accident or on purpose.
2) His building was under construction and was shaken by renovations
3) A large air handler or other mechanical device turned on, causing the shaking.

Ladies and gentleman, let us note for the record that BJ, after weeks of outright refusing to acknowledge the camera shook at the exact same time debris fell off the right side of the north tower, was finally backed into a corner and admitted that simple fact after his ego took repeat beatings. of course, for another week+, he refused to give any reason for the camera shaking until now. BJ, i'm glad you took my advice and used xjohnx's "hand of god" excuse. wait, you even one upped him! you also mentioned "renovations" ... because construction workers were still doing work while the city/country was under attack a few blocks away! LOL. maybe you can find the construction crew working the building that day! good stuff kid!

1. Please address why [rest of your repeat post edited out by al981]

ah, so BJ chooses to continue the playing dumb routine (how many times did i point out you were playing dumb in your last post? oh, playing dumb x14, i remember now...)

I'm not spending another hour addressing your questions that I already addressed in post# 1284. when you can admit the basic fact that scores of corroborating eyewitnesses felt rumblings and heard loud explosions that were not picked up on any seismographs (how many times have you been proven dead wrong about your seismograph argument? LOL), then we can continue.


speaking of explosions,

Those people saw and heard things that sounded like explosions, they aren't lying about that.
They also are not correct in saying that they were explosions.
Why? Because there's no freaking evidence of it and there is a lot
of evidence for other things that may have sounded and felt like explosives going off, but were, in fact other events or other explosions.

LOL! you continually deny the basic fact that explosions and rumblings occurred, claiming "no freaking evidence of it", yet somehow contradict yourself in the exact same sentence by saying the explosions were....wait for.... "in fact other explosions". ROFL! grats on self ownage, kid.

Dropping the fucking lols. It makes you sound even more retarded.

Take your condescending attitude somewhere else.

You deserve every single LoL i throw at you. starting off with your bullshit request for a "gentleman's conversation", and then completely losing your composure and throwing profanity after one post. LOL at you, mental midget. Also, don't play the victim card when you were one giving attitude to other 9/11 posters first. crying because he can't handle what he tries dishing out. pathetic.

a few other classic beajingle LOL moments:

how you royally fucked up the timeline of anne thompson's recorded testimony of rumblings and explosions that shook a building and chandeliers(funny how you won't acknowledge you completely botched that), along with your claim of 14,000 firefighters in on the conspiracy for only relaying evacuation information. LMFAO! of course, you still have no idea wtc7 has multiple seconds of now admitted free fall, along with the fact that steel in wtc7 melted, as stated by FEMA with their own word choice of "melting".

once again, grats on self ownage, kid!

 

[al981]

I DIRECTLY addressed this piece of shit video, and raped it, why are YOU avoiding it?

what you addressed was the placement of thermite against a column or some variation...i've learned to just skip the majority of whatever you write, given how i destroyed all of your previous arguments (do recall how you were in full blown denial mode that demolitions couldn't have explosions roughly 10+ seconds before any visual collapse started LOL!!!)

however, as i clearly stated, the fact that you acknowledged sunder's statement means that national geographic's claim is utter bullshit. they are directly contrdicting each other, genius! that was the only point i was trying to make, and your best buddy Lyingchickens still won't admit that basic fact. pwnt!

You really ARE one of the stupidest people I have ever seen.

that distinction goes to you, ("hand of god") champ: 😀😀

Originally Posted by xj0hnx
"I never claimed to be open minded"

kek ^^. 😀😀😀

 

[al981]

are you going to admit the steel from building 7 melted? i downloaded the F.E.M.A report and that is what F.E.M.A stated.

there is a lot of good information in this thread. thank you kyle and all the rest for providing so many witness accounts of explosions before those towers fell. those deep sounds heard before wtc7 came down in kyle's first post are very compelling.

nice of you to join the conversation ^^

hey LyingChickens, you know you've been dodging like a lying pussy when a new poster calls you out LOL 😀

 

[al981]

You may have downloaded it but you didn't read it properly. They found a few pieces of steel eroded due to a corrosive, high-temperature, chemical reaction. Making the jump from a few pieces were chemically corroded to "the steel from building 7 melted" is not only misinformed, it's blatantly dishonest.

Dishonest refers to LyingChicken, and how he continues to dodge the obvious fact that the steel melted. even FEMA has acknowledged that basic fact:

From FEMA:
It is much more difficult to tell if melting has occurred in the grain boundary regions of this steel as was observed in the a36 steel in wtc7"


And one more time:
KyleB was dead on accurate when he made this comment about you, LyingChickenShit: 😀😀😀

"You can ask TLC for a learned explanation for what caused the molten steel, but he can't give you one, nor can anyone else who insists on clinging to the official story. If you do ask him for a reasonable explanation, he'll likely lash out at you [and constantly lie his ass off, edit by al981], calling you a simpleton and anything else he can come up with to obfuscate the evidence in his demented defense of the official conspiracy theory. "

Acknowledge it melted, you dodging pussy.

Another who can't quite grasp that explosions != explosives.

Hichu didn't state for a fact that explosions = explosives. However, explosions support a demolition theory/explosives theory, and destroys NIST's claim that there were no explosions on audio. oops, there goes the fallacy of your pathetic argument.

He's in his own delusional little fantasy land. He's so far from reality there is no point in even responding to his idiocy any longer.

Ladies and gets, notice that once again, LyingChicken has flat out dodged and pussied out from admitting that Sunder's statement directly contradicts the national geographic claim he posted.

Here, let me post it again for you, since you continue to dodge and can't man up to admit it:

sunder is ON RECORD stating : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVE34kMwn0U#t=3m40s

"And, if you looked at the amount of thermite or thermate needed to bring this building down, you would had to place a hundred pounds of thermite right in proximity to the column ... because what thermite does is actually melt the steel."


Ah yes, Liar, why did you dodge my response to you regarding Romero's statements? Do address it you lying pussy.

Here, let me post it for you again:


Originally Posted by al981:
LOL, wait, so by romero claiming terrorists planted explosives to bring down the towers, that somehow damages the argument against demolition? wait what??? 😀😀😀 did your resulting seizure from lying about the confirmed melted wtc7 steel fry your brain, son? oh oh, i get it, as long as romero isn't saying the US GOVERNMENT DID IT, then it's ok! LOL!

So what exactly did I "lie" about, you pussy dodging liar? everything i stated about romero is true:

"Televised images of the attacks on the World Trade Center suggest that explosives devices caused the collapse of both towers, a New Mexico Tech explosion expert said Tuesday. The collapse of the buildings appears "too methodical" to be a chance result of airplanes colliding with the structures, said Van Romero, vice president for research at New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology. "My opinion is, based on the videotapes, that after the airplanes hit the World Trade Center there were some explosive devices inside the buildings that caused the towers to collapse," Romero said.

Romero said he based his opinion on video aired on national television broadcasts. Romero said the collapse of the structures resembled those of controlled implosions used to demolish old structures. "It would be difficult for something from the plane to trigger an event like that," Romero said ...

If explosions did cause the towers to collapse, the detonations could have been caused by a small amount of explosive, he said. "It could have been a relatively small amount of explosives placed in strategic points," Romero said."


Lulz, thanks for playing Chickens.

Inc dodges!

edit: afk for a few days, try to grow pair and man up during that period, Chicken! I sent you another bucket of crow, let us know if it tastes better than your last serving. 😀

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Dishonest refers to LyingChicken, and how he continues to dodge the obvious fact that the steel melted. even FEMA has acknowledged that basic fact:

From FEMA:
It is much more difficult to tell if melting has occurred in the grain boundary regions of this steel as was observed in the a36 steel in wtc7"


And one more time:
KyleB was dead on accurate when he made this comment about you, LyingChickenShit: 😀😀😀

And this proves exactly why you're an ignorant jackass who doesn't have the first clue what they are talking about.

The "melting" referred to was intergranular melting, which they detail in this statement:

"Evidence of a severe high temperature corrossion attack on the steel, including oxidation and sulfidation with subsequent intergranular melting, was readily visible in the near surface microstructure."

Do you even have an inkling of an idea of what intergranular melting is? Hint: Intergranular literally means 'between the grains.' Do you even know that steel has a grain structure that varies based on how it was manufactured and post-treated (heat-treating, cold-rolling, etc.)?

iow, the steel itself didn't really melt, and the above in no way indicates that it was in a molten state. But you're too fucking ignorant to have figured that out so you go around making claims you know nothing about.

Good job on completely owning yourself, dorf.

Since you have no credibility whatsoever to be talking about anything technically related, I will ignore the rest of your uninformed jibberish.

 

[xj0hnx]

what you addressed was the placement of thermite against a column or some variation...i've learned to just skip the majority of whatever you write,

Of course you do, because it makes you look stupid, and shows you don't know what you are talking about, and that you are just another gullible idiot Truther without a clue, clinging to other people's bullshit to support your own delusions. Any grade school child can follow this and see you are clownshoes.

however, as i clearly stated, the fact that you acknowledged sunder's statement means that national geographic's claim is utter bullshit.

There is no contradiction anywhere, and Sunders statement is right on te money, you are just too stupid to see it. You have been dissected, and torn apart word for word in this thread.

Originally Posted by xj0hnx

"I never claimed to be open minded"

kek ^^. 😀😀😀

And? I'm close minded, and you are still the stupidest person on the internet.

 

[alkemyst]

Are we back on WTC7 stuff yet or is this about how everyone that doesn't 100 percent agree with the NIST report must be a looney twuther.

I find it a gas that you tards had to make truther into twuther though.

The truth is really sad though, should an alien race ever try to land here and the public knew, they'd all cry out to nuke it first anyway. The next day they'd be in the crowd that 'we wanted to be friends' when some alien warlord comes back to assrape everyone for nuking his kid's space dighy.

 

[xj0hnx]

Are we back on WTC7 stuff yet or is this about how everyone that doesn't 100 percent agree with the NIST report must be a looney twuther.

I find it a gas that you tards had to make truther into twuther though.

The truth is really sad though, should an alien race ever try to land here and the public knew, they'd all cry out to nuke it first anyway. The next day they'd be in the crowd that 'we wanted to be friends' when some alien warlord comes back to assrape everyone for nuking his kid's space dighy.

Yet more about what we are talking about, and nothing about WTC 7? Are you really interested in WTC 7, or are you just trolling for dollars? If you want to talk about it, bring up something to discuss.

 

[LunarRay]

Yet more about what we are talking about, and nothing about WTC 7? Are you really interested in WTC 7, or are you just trolling for dollars? If you want to talk about it, bring up something to discuss.

Yay!
OK, I've something that I'd like to see if we can agree on...

WTC7 lives North of the Towers and the rest of the complex. Almost all of the video depicts the building's North face and maybe a bit of the East and West faces. The South face is the one that took the brunt of the damage from the collapse(s). In the time frame of about 4pm on any video or still pictures of the WTC7 that provided a view of the South face showed smoke emanating from what looks to me like every floor. Granted there were not too many of these 'shots' but there were some and they were often described as showing smoke 'in the area' mainly from WTC6 and other buildings by folks of the Alternate Conspiracy Theory... But, one can see the smoke coming from the windows in at least 2 of the videos...

Anyhow, I'm trying to see if there exists a common acceptance that WTC7 was an inferno at least in that section of the building and at the very latter part of its existence.

 

[al981]

And this proves exactly why you're an ignorant jackass who doesn't have the first clue what they are talking about.

The "melting" referred to was intergranular melting, which they detail in this statement:

"Evidence of a severe high temperature corrossion attack on the steel, including oxidation and sulfidation with subsequent intergranular melting, was readily visible in the near surface microstructure."

Do you even have an inkling of an idea of what intergranular melting is? Hint: Intergranular literally means 'between the grains.' Do you even know that steel has a grain structure that varies based on how it was manufactured and post-treated (heat-treating, cold-rolling, etc.)?

iow, the steel itself didn't really melt, and the above in no way indicates that it was in a molten state. But you're too fucking ignorant to have figured that out so you go around making claims you know nothing about.

Good job on completely owning yourself, dorf.

Since you have no credibility whatsoever to be talking about anything technically related, I will ignore the rest of your uninformed jibberish.

“The eutectic temperature for this mixture strongly suggests that the temperatures of the steel beam approached 1,000 C, which is substantially lower than would be expected for melting this steel”

“Heating of the steel into a hot corrosive environment approaching 1,000 C results in the formation of a eutectic mixture of iron, oxygen, and sulfur that liquefied the steel.”

“….

It is much more difficult to tell if MELTING (damn, there’s that pesky word that FEMA used again!) has occurred… as was observed in the A36 steel from WTC7.”

“It is also possible that the phenomenon started prior to collapse and accelerated the weakening of the steel structure.” – damn, that doesn’t help NIST’s case does it… no wonder they completely neglected to mention this pesky little detail.

Fact: the steel melted [FEMA’s word choice multiple times], with corrosion/sulfur [ah, that pesky mysterious sulfur no government agency has been able to replicate], and created circular holes right through the steel, and LyingChicken won’t accept that basic fact or whatever delusional reason. I’m sure the Liar has already written to FEMA telling them to change their wording!

Thanks for playing, LyingChicken. You haven’t given a review how crispy that crow tasted. Was it any crispier than the other buckets I sent you in previous weeks?

Oh, and once again, nice job dodging both Sunder’s contradiction to national geographic, and my romero response in post# 1315. Dodge dodge dodge, you lying pussy!

 

[al981]

There is no contradiction anywhere, and Sunders statement is right on te money, you are just too stupid to see it.

If sunder's statement is correct that thermite melts steal as you so claim, then national geographic is full of shit and backing an obviously flawed experiment.

Originally Posted by xj0hnx
And? I'm close minded,

Originally Posted by xj0hnx
I never claimed to be open minded

Originally Posted by xj0hnx
The camera shakes because ...someone touches it. BWAHAHAHAHAHA the camera shaking BEFORE collapse?


quoted the kid for the LuLz. :awe: kek.

 

[LunarRay]

AL981, I keep seeing your signature and keep wondering how fast the bullet was spinning when it was logged in the Governor's leg before it fell out onto the wrong table?

 

[xj0hnx]

If sunder's statement is correct that thermite melts steal as you so claim, then national geographic is full of shit and backing an obviously flawed experiment.

Either you are too stupid to understand what was said, or are just trolling, which is it? Come on choose one, either you lack the mental facilities to comprehend what they said, or are just being purposefully deceitful.

Originally Posted by xj0hnx

And? I'm close minded,

Originally Posted by xj0hnx
I never claimed to be open minded

Originally Posted by xj0hnx
The camera shakes because ...someone touches it. BWAHAHAHAHAHA the camera shaking BEFORE collapse?


quoted the kid for the LuLz. :awe: kek.

The "lulz are you thinking that a camera shaking in a building blocks away has anything to do with nonexistent explosives.

 

[xj0hnx]

AL981, I keep seeing your signature and keep wondering how fast the bullet was spinning when it was logged in the Governor's leg before it fell out onto the wrong table?

If the bullet was lodged in his leg it wouldn't be spinning when it fell out onto the table, and would have been covered in blood.