Audi RS5 (explain, please)

[ElFenix]

I don't even think that the GT 5.0 engine is the "end all" V8 American engine. I would argue that the LS3 is just as good if not better since it is a simpler design. Yes, it has a displacement advantage, but the overall package size is still smaller. Plus we know it can handle boost easily in stock form or can be upgraded with forged internals like the LS9 and handle 600+ stock.

well which is it?

 

[Malak]

The RS5 is sexy; drop dead gorgeous. The M3 and C63.. not so much.

I know I'd rather be cruising around in the RS5 more than the other two..

The C63 is pretty hot too, but I'd still take the RS5.

 

[Fenixgoon]

No, no typo.

C63 AMG coupe: 80ish
C63 AMG Sedan: 70ish

BMW M3 Coupe: 70ish
BMW M3 Sedan: 60ish

Audi RS5: 100ish
Audi TTRS: 60ish

On paper, the performance between the RS5 and TTRS are pretty much the same. One can say the RS5 has more power than the TTRS, which is true, but the weight difference is around 600 pounds and the torque is almost the same. Both cars have much of their torque available in low revs.

When considering performance AND price, if one were a buyer at this moment(of super fun German luxury), then wouldn't one look at the TTRS, M3, and C63 AMG?

i meant the tire sizes...

So what's up with the front tires being taller and having more sidewall? I don't like that :|

Rear should be bigger or the same, if only for aesthetics.

Edit: Looks like a mistake in the article. Standard tires are 265/35/19 and optional are 270/30/20-- same front and rear, which is what you'd expect with an AWD car.

fucking called it

 

[Imdmn04]

This is probably the estimated priced based on the European model priced in Euros.

Car in America are almost ALWAYS cheaper than E.U. when the manufacturers brings it to the state side as we are the biggest market in the world. (not including China because their luxury car demand is still pretty low compared to the U.S.)

A 60k (about 80K USD) Euro car will typically sell for $55k USD in the states, because we have the purchasing power and have way less duties than the E.U.

 

[Malak]

This is probably the estimated priced based on the European model priced in Euros.

Car in America are almost ALWAYS cheaper than E.U. when the manufacturers brings it to the state side as we are the biggest market in the world. (not including China because their luxury car demand is still pretty low compared to the U.S.)

A 60k (about 80K USD) Euro car will typically sell for $55k USD in the states, because we have the purchasing power and have way less duties than the E.U.

It also depends where in Europe too. I've read projects on Audis where they took a previous body model and ordered all the parts to upgrade it to a new body model, spending like $40k on the project, all because it is far cheaper than buying brand new which was some astronomical price on just a standard A4.

 

[KentState]

well which is it?

Both. Callaway has been supercharging the stock LS3 for years with success. GM built up the engine with forged internals which is the LS9 that can handle 800hp easily.

 

[Monster_Munch]

I don't think anybody likes having to rev higher for the same horsepower. What is the advantage of the smaller higher revving engine? I'm guessing it's not gas mileage-- they're probably much less efficient than the Ford 5.0

Edit: M3 is rated at 14/20mpg. Mustang 17/26

Lots of European countries impose taxes based on engine displacement, so a big 5 litre V8 is undesirable when you can get the same performance from a 3 litre turbo.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

No, no typo.

C63 AMG coupe: 80ish
C63 AMG Sedan: 70ish

BMW M3 Coupe: 70ish
BMW M3 Sedan: 60ish

Audi RS5: 100ish
Audi TTRS: 60ish

On paper, the performance between the RS5 and TTRS are pretty much the same. One can say the RS5 has more power than the TTRS, which is true, but the weight difference is around 600 pounds and the torque is almost the same. Both cars have much of their torque available in low revs.

When considering performance AND price, if one were a buyer at this moment(of super fun German luxury), then wouldn't one look at the TTRS, M3, and C63 AMG?

The problem is that we really have no idea with the RS5 would cost if it came over here. The M3, etc is way more expensive over there than it is here. If Audi were to ever bring it over here, it may have a slight premium over a M3, but not much.

Yeah that does seem odd...

The base prices in the UK are -
M5 Coupé - £54,545
RS5 Coupé - £58,685

 

[TheAdvocate]

The RS5 is sexy; drop dead gorgeous. The M3 and C63.. not so much.

I know I'd rather be cruising around in the RS5 more than the other two..

This.