Audi DSG vs Bmw SMG

[r6ashih]

whats the difference between the two?

Audi DSG and BMW SMG.

 

[bolido2000]

DSG uses 2 clutches, so there is continuous flow of power.

 

[Goosemaster]

In otherwords AUdi > * excpet beasts like Ferrari, Lambo, Bugatti, koenigsegg etc

I LOVE the R8, but Ferrari can ruffle my Feathers anytime.

 

[bolido2000]

Originally posted by: Goosemaster
In otherwords AUdi > * excpet beasts like Ferrari, Lambo, Bugatti, koenigsegg etc

I LOVE the R8, but Ferrari can ruffle my Feathers anytime.

Audi's new DSG is probably the best transmission that's out there. No one else has a transmission with 2 clutches. No review I've seen likes Ferrari's sequential transmission. I think most reviews I've read have said that the M3's SMG is the best sequential out there. Now, it's Audi's. BTW, Lambo, Bugatti, Audi and VW are one big happy family. I'm sure they will eventually use the new DSG tranmission.

 

[Mingon]

the transmission is not Audi's - they just buy it from getrag (iirc) and as such it will be used in other manufacturers cars soon. Their is another box currently being developed which is even better as it has zero time between upshifts.

 

[Triumph]

I'm almost positive the DSG is NOT sourced from getrag. On the other hand, alot of the SMG type transmissions are sourced across companies. BMW, Ferrari, Maserati...

 

[StageLeft]

WTF? How does the double clutch work? That is damn nifty, so there is no lag - the thing just keeps pulling?!

EDIT: Maybe Audi should try and get its quality control up before doubling the clutches in their transmissions

 

[Aharami]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
WTF? How does the double clutch work? That is damn nifty, so there is no lag - the thing just keeps pulling?!

apparantly so. more info please! this is really interesting!!

which Audis has the DSG?

 

[Mr.IncrediblyBored]

Originally posted by: Aharami

Originally posted by: Skoorb
WTF? How does the double clutch work? That is damn nifty, so there is no lag - the thing just keeps pulling?!

apparantly so. more info please! this is really interesting!!

which Audis has the DSG?

The latest TT is the first model from Audi with it available.

 

[Triumph]

DSG explanation, including purty graphics.

 

[dmurray14]

damnit...that is beautiful. I want to go test drive one now...

 

[AgaBoogaBoo]

Two clutches??? Anyone care to explain a little more?

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: AgaBooga
Two clutches??? Anyone care to explain a little more?

read the link, by Triumph.

I have to say that this is both very impressive, and absolutely nothing I would want in a car that is out of power train warranty. You think a tranny repairs costs money now? My GOD, how much would it cost to do work on this thing?!

 

[Gravity]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
WTF? How does the double clutch work? That is damn nifty, so there is no lag - the thing just keeps pulling?!

EDIT: Maybe Audi should try and get its quality control up before doubling the clutches in their transmissions

Yup, Audi's quality is still lagging a bit. I'm a BMW car club member, have been for years. I like their tranny's but they do outsource most of their production. I had a 5 series with a gertrag but now have a 3 series with a GM unit. I like it but I don't think it will last as long as the gertrag.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: Gravity

Originally posted by: Skoorb
WTF? How does the double clutch work? That is damn nifty, so there is no lag - the thing just keeps pulling?!

EDIT: Maybe Audi should try and get its quality control up before doubling the clutches in their transmissions

Yup, Audi's quality is still lagging a bit. I'm a BMW car club member, have been for years. I like their tranny's but they do outsource most of their production. I had a 5 series with a gertrag but now have a 3 series with a GM unit. I like it but I don't think it will last as long as the gertrag.

I know that Audi quality is laughably bad overall, but are their transmissions any good? Even if they do historically hvae good transmissions I still bet this new one will suck if you have no warranty with it.

 

[Mingon]

Originally posted by: Triumph
I'm almost positive the DSG is NOT sourced from getrag. On the other hand, alot of the SMG type transmissions are sourced across companies. BMW, Ferrari, Maserati...

Yeah your right its BorgWarner, apparently BMW have a 7speed version planned for its new m5

 

[johnjbruin]

Originally posted by: Triumph
DSG explanation, including purty graphics.

SWEET

 

[Aharami]

In sport mode the transmission utilizes fuzzy logic in the programming and is scary in how well it seems to anticipate your need to downshift - enter a straight-away, wind it out to redline, upshift and as you come into the next turn the transmission will rev-match and downshift into the meat of the powerband right about the time you want to down-shift. Since the computer already knows all the optimum shift points to keep the engine in the power band, the DSG will likely out-smart the driver. If you leave the transmission in "S" mode and don't touch the paddles, it will shift up and down through the gears automatically. At any time you can click the paddles and the transmission will assume you want to shift yourself from now on. And it will wait for your shifts - on the cars we drove you could bog it to death or run it clear into the redline and the DSG obeyed your command.

wow! bravo VW!!