Attacked by dog

Muse

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What should I do?

In the past I've been attacked by a dog once or twice on my bike, but not on my skates. Yesterday at 10:20 AM, I was rollerskating (not inline but quads) to the gym, a 1.5 mile skate, and I was taking my customary route that I have done hundreds of times. It's the best route I've found, with the best paving. I was on the street (residential, Berkeley, CA), and I saw a dog in the street, unleashed. I believe it's not permissible to let your dog roam unleashed in Berkeley.

It was a medium sized dog, apparently some kind of bulldog, maybe a mixed breed. I'd guess 40 lb. For a few seconds it wasn't apparently aggressive, but it keyed on me and started running right at me. Having some experience with this kind of incident, I didn't assume the dog would bite me. They often try to intimidate me and only threaten to bite, but this one grabbed a hold of the front of my left skate and bit down hard and shook my foot. Fortunately I have toe guards attached to the front of my skates, really to prevent damage in the event of an accident or bumping into something. They are thick, tough plastic. There's a hole now where the dog's tooth penetrated and the toe guard is partially removed from the skate. I also wear leather gloves when skating, in case I take a fall.

I didn't think to look to see if the dog had a collar. I wouldn't have seen it anyway with the dog charging right at me.

The dog backed off, but came at me again and bit again, but this time with less force. It came at me two more times. I wanted to escape, but feared that the animal would attack me from behind. My defense was to yell at it forcefully and tell it to go away (don't remember my words, but I tried to sound authoritative, like an angry master). I called out to an old woman and asked her whose dog it was (the dog's demeanor, especially before it attacked suggested to me that its home was nearby, maybe the house it was in front of) and she mumbled something speculative. I looked up to get an address for reference and the dog came at me again as a man came down the sidewalk and whistled to the dog. I asked if he knew whose it was and said he didn't know, and I took the opportunity to skate off and continued to the gym (the man had distracted the dog). Once at the gym, I took off my sock, and inspecting my foot I didn't see any damage. I had surgery on this foot 3 years ago and it still always hurts ( :( ), but that dog's bite made it hurt worse, especially for 20 minutes afterward.

After my workout I took the same route home because other routes are rough and also because I wanted to see if that dog was still loose. I had a small pocket knife handy and also my small gym towel ready to pull out in an effort to deal with a dog attack. I figure I could bring a large pocket knife in the future but don't know how wise that is. Maybe an injured dog would be more likely to hurt me seriously, I figure, but don't know. Anyway, in the future I'm bringing my cell phone (911!).

I figured I should report the incident. I had a noon engagement yesterday right after my workout and had to rush off to it.

Should I call the cops, animal protective services? Am I on solid ground being a street skater? Over the years I've had 2-3 cops yell at me to get out of the street from squad cars, is the reason I ask this. Normally, they leave me alone. I sometimes skate on the sidewalk if it's better than the street for whatever reasons (street rough, traffic too dangerous or whatever), but if the street's OK, I skate the street. Sidewalks can be dangerous, and are generally a lot more dangerous than the street, both for me and for pedestrians. I've been skating the Berkeley streets for 19+ years, never hurt anyone (but myself in a minor way a few times), and know how to take care of myself. An attacking dog, is another matter, of course.

If I'm really not secure in my status as a street skater as far as the law is concerned, I don't want to bring attention to myself. I love to skate and do so when I can. Otherwise I bike, and when I can't do either, I use a car.
 

Muse

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Please, guys, be serious. The OP was serious and I don't think you should be flippant here.
 

Muse

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Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
The dog was trying to tell you something, rollerskating went out in the 80's.

The dog was doing nothing of the sort. Anyway, I'm not trying to be trendy. I enjoy my rollerskating. Nobody (except you here) has ever told me anything like that. Scores of people have given me positive feedback on my skates and skating. :roll:
 

TallBill

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Originally posted by: Muse
Please, guys, be serious. The OP was serious and I don't think you should be flippant here.

I was, in a metaphorical way.
 

Muse

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Originally posted by: TallBill
Originally posted by: Muse
Please, guys, be serious. The OP was serious and I don't think you should be flippant here.

I was, in a metaphorical way.

That's cool, I realize that.
 

invidia

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Kicking and punching a dog doesn't work. Running is the worst idea, since that's the basic instinct of the animal that you are the PREY and that you cannot outrun a dog.

You can't do much except throwing your hardest punch to the dog's nose or picking up a rock and repeatedly bash the dog's head. I don't see how you will get in trouble since people kill muggers all the time in self defense with a gun/knife and not get charged with anything. It's only a dog.
 

Oceandevi

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You should carry a stick. 3 or 4 feet long wood or even pvc. All the older people I see around here carry them just in case. Most dogs wont jack with a person that swings a stick at them.
 

Muse

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Originally posted by: Oceandevi
You should carry a stick. 3 or 4 feet long wood or even pvc. All the older people I see around here carry them just in case. Most dogs wont jack with a person that swings a stick at them.

That's interesting. The guy who taught me most of what I know about skating carried one or two long sticks (can't remember, it was almost 20 years ago). He used them almost like canes, touching down on every foot stroke. What if I carry a big pocket knife? Would a stabbed dog run away or would it viciously attack me?
 

Amused

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They sell pepper spray for dogs. Given your history with dogs, I'd pick some up.
 

sdifox

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you are on rollerskates??? Are you at least on ceramic wheels? Just kick/punch the dog. Carry a foot long stick if you must.
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: Muse
Originally posted by: Oceandevi
You should carry a stick. 3 or 4 feet long wood or even pvc. All the older people I see around here carry them just in case. Most dogs wont jack with a person that swings a stick at them.

That's interesting. The guy who taught me most of what I know about skating carried one or two long sticks (can't remember, it was almost 20 years ago). He used them almost like canes, touching down on every foot stroke. What if I carry a big pocket knife? Would a stabbed dog run away or would it viciously attack me?

A stick is better in that it keeps your hands away from the dog. If you try to stab the dog, your hand will be placed well within biting range.
Maybe you could try micturating on it and see what happens?
 

sdifox

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Originally posted by: invidia
Kicking and punching a dog doesn't work. Running is the worst idea, since that's the basic instinct of the animal that you are the PREY and that you cannot outrun a dog.

You can't do much except throwing your hardest punch to the dog's nose or picking up a rock and repeatedly bash the dog's head. I don't see how you will get in trouble since people kill muggers all the time in self defense with a gun/knife and not get charged with anything. It's only a dog.

I disagree. When a dog bites you, jam whatever it is biting into its mouth/throat, gag it and it will release. Pulling just cause more damage. Punching a dog in the nose will make it run away. I have yet to meet a dog who did not respect a nose punch.

 

scott916

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That's a tough call. Obviously the dog wasn't intending to hurt you seriously, it seems it was protecting its property. If you do in fact take the same route, I'd say pepper spray would probably be more effective in the same situation than a small pocket knife. As for calling animal control, I wouldn't, but I can see why a reasonable person might. If you see the dog acting aggressively without the owner around again, then I'd certainly be more inclined to shoot them a ring.
 

AmberClad

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Originally posted by: Oceandevi
You should carry a stick. 3 or 4 feet long wood or even pvc. All the older people I see around here carry them just in case. Most dogs wont jack with a person that swings a stick at them.
How the hell is he going to carry a 3-4 foot piece of PVC with him :roll:?

The alternative to that would be a telescoping ASP baton.
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: Muse
Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
The dog was trying to tell you something, rollerskating went out in the 80's.

The dog was doing nothing of the sort. Anyway, I'm not trying to be trendy. I enjoy my rollerskating. Nobody (except you here) has ever told me anything like that. Scores of people have given me positive feedback on my skates and skating. :roll:


i :heart: my rollerblades.

I've never been attacked by a dog though. although there is one who likes to come out and bark at me.

I think you should call the local dog warden, and ask about a leash law. Report the dog as dangerous and loose, and they should follow up with finding the owner.

In the meantime I agree with Amused, at the least, get some pepper spray.
 

CorCentral

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Muse
Originally posted by: Cdubneeddeal
The dog was trying to tell you something, rollerskating went out in the 80's.

The dog was doing nothing of the sort. Anyway, I'm not trying to be trendy. I enjoy my rollerskating. Nobody (except you here) has ever told me anything like that. Scores of people have given me positive feedback on my skates and skating. :roll:


i :heart: my rollerblades.


You reminded me of a song :laugh:
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