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ATOTers with significant others

Rachael

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One of my girlfriends and I have been close friends since the two of us first came to college last year (we're sophomores at this point). She's always been a very blunt person, and not entirely open minded, and because of that she doesn't have many other friends here. However, the two of us got along fine, spent a lot of time together, and quickly became very good friends. My boyfriend is also a big part of my life, and he comes to visit nearly every weekend. The three of us often hang out, and since my boyfriend has a car, he drives us anywhere we feel like going (mall, movies, etc). On several occasions when I have been busy but he is visiting, the two of them have gone on drives or hung out together.

Now as I said, my friend is pretty blunt, and she's also pretty sarcastic, so on occasion she would make not-the-nicest of comments about him to me. But seeing as that tended to be her personality, I have to admit I never took it very seriously. The last couple of times the three of us went out together, though, things seemed worse. She would call him names with a straight face, so I couldn't really assume she was joking, and ignored him when he tried to enter into our conversation. The next day, he offered to drive us to get ice cream, and she didn't talk to either of us- she even walked far ahead of us as we went to and from the car. This left both my boyfriend and I feeling pretty badly. So that night I gave her a call and asked her about it- she admitted that she didn't care for him, didn't respect him, and when I asked her if she'd prefer in the future not to spend time with him, she said she would prefer that. She even said that the times that she had spent with him were just a favor.

My feeling is that since she willingly spent time with us and sought us out when we were together, it was reasonable to assume that she liked him, or at least didn't have any particularly negative feelings toward him. She argued however that she never said she liked him so I shouldn't have made that assumption, and that she was spending time with us in order to spend time with me. Because she was only there to see me, she found it reasonable to basically ignore him.

I think that not necessarily agreeing with but at least respecting a person's choices, when they're not harmful ones, is a part of being their friend. By being rude to my boyfriend and taking advantage of his generosity, I felt that I was being disrespected as well. That said, the two of us have been very close friends for going on two years now and it leaves me in a kind of awkward spot. I feel hurt by this but at the same time part of me doesn't necessarily want to lose her as a friend. So, ATOT, what would you do in this situation? Would you remain friends? Cut her off? Issue an ultimatum? Give me some advice!

CLIFFS:
1. College friend with a blunt and somewhat disagreeable personality & boyfriend who often drives out and visits are both big parts of my life.
2. The three of us often go out together, he is generous enough to drive us places.
3. Boyfriend and myself both assumed our time spent together meant all three of us were friends.
4. College friend was blatantly rude to boyfriend.
5. I called her up, she says she doesn't like him, is my friend only, and has no obligation to be respectful of him.
6. I don't know if I can be friends with someone who is competely disrespectful to the person who I have chosen to be with.
7. What should I do?

EDIT:I'm glad that you were all so interested, I didn't go into a further long and drawn out explanation before because I was afraid it would make the thread too long. So here's more background info on all parties.

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Just how significant is the SO?
Very significant, the two of us have been together for two years now.

Originally posted by: Sraaz
There is never "no reason." Ever.
Well, here's some background on the friend then. Since college (and according to her, for quite a while before that) she has been involved in a string of bad relationships. Her boyfriends have been unkind and disrespectful. She, in turn, has been untrustworthy, often cheating on them. She definitely has a lot of trust issues.

As I said, she has been my friend since the start of college. Towards the beginning of college my boyfriend and I were going through a rough time. I opened up to her and she was of the strong opinion that I should end things. In spite of that, I chose to stick it out and try to work things out. I'm glad I did, because pretty much by the next semester things had smoothed over. However, it now seems that she never let go of that disfavorable feeling she had toward him.

There are a number of aspects of our relationship that she seems to disapprove of- the main one being that we are in an open relationship. So yes, she's certainly seen him look at other girls! But she is aware that we are in an open relationship and that is okay by me. Part of our policy, in fact, is that we are honest with each other, he lets me know of any interests, anything he's done, etc. She, however, during our conversation actually "reported" on him ("Did you know he did this.." etc). I guess this leads me to think that her trust issues might be part of the center of this- that the thing about our relationship that she doesn't understand is that trust we have for each other.

Thanks for reading!
 
IMO, being somebody's friend is respecting the things they like. In this case, your friend should be respecting your boyfriend.
 
This dates back to '02-'03. My best friend didn't like my girlfriend - and she didn't like him much either. He thought she was too 'blah blah blah' which was right on the money - her mouth would do talking her brain had no control over. He would always tell me I could do better and he actually was right.

She thought he was a typical, rich & good-looking snob who thought he was better than most people (also true - he really was a rich, good-looking brat and smarter/slicker than most people. But he was not a snob - he was a guy's guy).

The way it worked out was when we did hang out together, I'd warn the two to try and not step on each other's toes. It can definitely work assuming they can control their mouths around each other and don't want to drag you into the mess when they DO tell each other off. These two would fight often but thankfully, when it came time to say they were sorry, I wouldn't have to mediate.
 
The better question is, would u be able to be friends with someone who liked your sign. other in that way....
 
your friend doesn't like him for some reason...she's just choosing not to tell it to you...but there is ALWAYS a reason...you'll have to find out what it is before any real decision making can be done...so go dig it out of her, you have a right to know the reason...especially if she wishes this friendship to continue peacefully...
 
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Just how significant is the SO?

this is what i want to know too.
Is he a very serious BF? If so, i would be very angry at the friend to the point of ending it with her or giving her an untimadum. Perhaps that will give her a good swift kick in the butt in realizing that you cannot treat people like that and that what she says about your BF hurts you.
If she was really a good friend, why would she say stuff like that UNLESS.... hrm... it just came to me... she is jeleous... have you ever thought of that?
 
Would never be an issue. Your problem is that you and your girlfriend are girls. You just make up problems that dont exist. 😛
 
yeap there is a reason. could be something really dumb though heh.


would i put up with it? hell no. but i am lucky. all my friends actually like my wife heh.


a buddy of mine was in this situation. he went to college and has a good job (lower upper managment), has nice cars and a ok house. well he started dateing (and married) a girl who just has a high school diploma, low level entry job in a office.


Well his friends from work would always put her down. they were rude to her and talk down to her all the time. She is a slight tomboy and they would joke about that all the time. I would try to defend her (she is a nice girl. i enjoy being with her) as much as i could (wich was not much. since they did not like me either. admiting to living on a farm was to low class). her husband would not do anything about it.

well she divorced him (they were only married 1yr 2 months. 6 mont seperation before divorce). well hsi friends from work started telling him how much better he could do then her and how good it was to get away from it (yeah they called her it or butch). latter he called and said he been seeing her again and they are going to counseling. when he eventually told his friends from work they told him its either them or her. what shocked me is the bastard thought about it for a while. but he did tell them to fvck off.

i just couldnt understand how he waited so long.
 
She's got a reason why and the fact that she's covering it up means she's probably a bit embarrassed/afraid over/about it. You said they hung out before without you... maybe he tried to hit on her :Q!

Originally posted by: waggy
i just couldnt understand how he waited so long.

Probably the type of person that doesn't want to lose all (really most) of his "friends." Even though they weren't much of friends, sometimes that's better than nothing to people. It was like that for me for part of high school... my friends were asses to me, but it was nicer to at least have someone that I could call a friend than not at all 🙁. Also, even though you're with a girl that doesn't mean you want to spend 100% of your time with her. Sometimes it's nice to go out with friends and relax... but not having said friends would impose quite a difficulty in that.
 
Seems like there's some sexual tension in here somewhere. Either between your friend and bf, or your friend and you.
 
Sounds like your "friend" is jealous.

So, if you BF is a "serious" BF, you need to dump the friend. Remember, there is a reason why she has no other friends and nobody else likes her.
 
Originally posted by: Anghang
your friend doesn't like him for some reason...she's just choosing not to tell it to you...but there is ALWAYS a reason...you'll have to find out what it is before any real decision making can be done...so go dig it out of her, you have a right to know the reason...especially if she wishes this friendship to continue peacefully...


I also find it odd that just the two of them hung out at times, now she says she dont like him. There is a reason, there is allways a reason. Could one of them hit on the other and now they dont want to say anything.
 
Originally posted by: Aikouka
She's got a reason why and the fact that she's covering it up means she's probably a bit embarrassed/afraid over/about it. You said they hung out before without you... maybe he tried to hit on her :Q!

Originally posted by: waggy
i just couldnt understand how he waited so long.

Probably the type of person that doesn't want to lose all (really most) of his "friends." Even though they weren't much of friends, sometimes that's better than nothing to people. It was like that for me for part of high school... my friends were asses to me, but it was nicer to at least have someone that I could call a friend than not at all 🙁. Also, even though you're with a girl that doesn't mean you want to spend 100% of your time with her. Sometimes it's nice to go out with friends and relax... but not having said friends would impose quite a difficulty in that.

Sounds like it was the other way around. I think she was trying to steal your man, and when she found out it wasnt gonna happen, she got pissed.
 
Originally posted by: bignateyk
Originally posted by: Aikouka
She's got a reason why and the fact that she's covering it up means she's probably a bit embarrassed/afraid over/about it. You said they hung out before without you... maybe he tried to hit on her :Q!

Originally posted by: waggy
i just couldnt understand how he waited so long.

Probably the type of person that doesn't want to lose all (really most) of his "friends." Even though they weren't much of friends, sometimes that's better than nothing to people. It was like that for me for part of high school... my friends were asses to me, but it was nicer to at least have someone that I could call a friend than not at all 🙁. Also, even though you're with a girl that doesn't mean you want to spend 100% of your time with her. Sometimes it's nice to go out with friends and relax... but not having said friends would impose quite a difficulty in that.

Sounds like it was the other way around. I think she was trying to steal your man, and when she found out it wasnt gonna happen, she got pissed.
Or she's jealous that her friend has a boyfriend now, and she doesn't. I think we need to know if this friend is good-looking or not.
 
I doubt she likes him. Sounds to me like this girl doesn't have a lot of friends and based on your OP, no boyfriend of her own. So now she sees the one good friend that she has, sharing her life with another person (the boyfriend). So the friend is a bit jealous and now resents the boyfriend for being part of the mix.

Personally, if one of my closest friends had a problem with my SO, the friend would lose out. My SO is my best friend and if my other friends cannot accept her or have negative things to say, then I don't need them in my life.

To the OP: if you truly value your friendship with the girl, then you should just sit down and have a serious conversation with her. Just make it very laid back and don't be too confrontational. Just let her know that you want both people in your life and for them to get along. If she can't deal with that, then you just have to move on and let her work it out on her own. If she can't, then it's her loss, not yours.
 
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