ATOT Republicans

[sjwaste]

Here are the rules: No criticising others posts, just your opinion. If you want to debate or criticize, P&N is the right place for this topic. I don't stir a lot of controversy as a member here and I'd like to think I'm submitting this to ATOT because we're the best of the bunch.

I'm hoping I can get just those who lean republican (the reader defines the term) to vote here.

Would you vote for Huckabee if he got the nomination? He's doing well in the polls and might just find the nomination. Please respond Yes or No and if you can, reply with a reason. Then, if it's ok with you to name it, tell us who you would vote for at the present time.

I wanted to put this to ATOT because P&N just isn't where I like to converse. If this doesn't belong here, mods, please delete instead of moving it, and accept my apology for posting in the wrong forum.

Here goes. I would not. While I identify as republican, I don't accept social conservatism as a sole qualifier to run on the republican ticket. Maybe I lean libertarian (I do), but above all, I want a person who couldn't care less about what their party thinks as long as it makes sense. I want drastically less spending, more states rights, more onus on the states to finance themselves, and a value added tax.

My vote would go to Ron Paul at this time. He's not the perfect candidate in terms of social policies, but I trust him because he takes an economically rational position on most issues.

 

[pyonir]

This is politics. This belongs in Politics and News.

 

[Goosemaster]

*lights molotov*


edit: seriously though...run.


Seriously though, keep it in P&N regardless.

 

[drinkmorejava]

No, I don't feel he has enough experience. I also don't like the idea of him being a pastor; I feel that it would conflict with having to make tough decisions regarding peoples lives and the safety of the nation. Furthermore, his website and videos are full of people saying how compassionate he is, I don't want to hear that, I want people to say he would be a greater leader because of x, y, and z. If his compassion is the only thing people can remember about him, we're not going to be getting very far.

 

[Pabster]

Absolutely not. He's an Arkansas Liberal, and belongs in the same drawer under the file Clinton, William J.

 

[bamacre]

No. I'm voting for Ron Paul.

 

[CaptnKirk]

Originally posted by: Pabster
Absolutely not. He's an Arkansas Liberal, and belongs in the same drawer under the file Clinton, William J.

You got to be kidding, right?

. . or do you just live under a rock.




Where's the option 'Undecided' - the Primary is still way out there, and we need time to see who else implodes.

Grab a beer and some popcorn, sit down and watch the show,
more patriotic than fireworks on the 4th of July.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk

Originally posted by: Pabster
Absolutely not. He's an Arkansas Liberal, and belongs in the same drawer under the file Clinton, William J.

You got to be kidding, right?

. . or do you just live under a rock.

He said he wouldn't vote for Paul because he's a Republican from Texas.

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk

Originally posted by: Pabster
Absolutely not. He's an Arkansas Liberal, and belongs in the same drawer under the file Clinton, William J.

You got to be kidding, right?

. . or do you just live under a rock.

He just isn't very smrt.

I go back and forth trying to decide who is more ideologically handicapped...Pabster or Dave?

 

[CaptnKirk]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk

Originally posted by: Pabster
Absolutely not. He's an Arkansas Liberal, and belongs in the same drawer under the file Clinton, William J.

You got to be kidding, right?

. . or do you just live under a rock.

He said he wouldn't vote for Paul because he's a Republican from Texas.

this says it all . . .

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk

Originally posted by: Pabster
Absolutely not. He's an Arkansas Liberal, and belongs in the same drawer under the file Clinton, William J.

You got to be kidding, right?

. . or do you just live under a rock.

He just isn't very smrt.

I go back and forth trying to decide who is more ideologically handicapped...Pabster or Dave?

You mean Ying and Yang, Frick and Frack?

 

[CaptnKirk]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk

Originally posted by: Pabster
Absolutely not. He's an Arkansas Liberal, and belongs in the same drawer under the file Clinton, William J.

You got to be kidding, right?

. . or do you just live under a rock.

He just isn't very smrt.

I go back and forth trying to decide who is more ideologically handicapped...Pabster or Dave?

You mean Ying and Yang, Frick and Frack?

each is chained to their own personal albatross.

 

[brxndxn]

I'm voting Ron Paul.

Huckabee scares me less than Mitt Romney.. But he scares me more than everyone else - including Hillary. I think it's ridiculous that any real Christian would buy the crap that Huckabee is claiming - that his surge in the polls is caused by God?! "I am the Christian leader! Vote for me or you are not Christian!"

If Huckabee was nominated, I would still vote for Ron Paul. I'll write him in if I have to.

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk

Originally posted by: Pabster
Absolutely not. He's an Arkansas Liberal, and belongs in the same drawer under the file Clinton, William J.

You got to be kidding, right?

. . or do you just live under a rock.

He said he wouldn't vote for Paul because he's a Republican from Texas.

Those are good enough reasons for me to dislike Ron Paul...just like Mitt's Mormonism is enough for me to dislike /distrust him...

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: BoomerD

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk

Originally posted by: Pabster
Absolutely not. He's an Arkansas Liberal, and belongs in the same drawer under the file Clinton, William J.

You got to be kidding, right?

. . or do you just live under a rock.

He said he wouldn't vote for Paul because he's a Republican from Texas.

Those are good enough reasons for me to dislike Ron Paul...just like Mitt's Mormonism is enough for me to dislike /distrust him...

In regards to what I bolded, I must ask, why? As your statement stands, it's not far off from bigotry.

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: BoomerD

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk

Originally posted by: Pabster
Absolutely not. He's an Arkansas Liberal, and belongs in the same drawer under the file Clinton, William J.

You got to be kidding, right?

. . or do you just live under a rock.

He said he wouldn't vote for Paul because he's a Republican from Texas.

Those are good enough reasons for me to dislike Ron Paul...just like Mitt's Mormonism is enough for me to dislike /distrust him...

In regards to what I bolded, I must ask, why? As your statement stands, it's not far off from bigotry.[/q]

You say that like it's a bad thing...

We've had three presidents from Texas in my lifetime, LBJ , Bush41, and Dubya...LBJ let Vietnam override any common sense he had, even though his "Great Society" was based on good ideals.
Bush 41..."Read My Lips"...not a horrible president, just meh...(and appeared to be fully in control by the PNAC.
Dubya...fuck...where to start?
WMD'S THEY GOT WMD'S!!
TERRISTS!! THEY'S TERRISTS!
"MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
and on, and on, and on....

Plus, since I'm a lifelong Democrat...being a Republican is enough by itself to keep me from voting for RP...sadly, the Dems aren't offering what I consider to be any kind of decent candidate AGAIN, so I'm honestly not sure who I'll vote for, whether I'll cross my party line for the first time in my over 30 years of voting...but vote I will...I firmly believe that if you don't vote, even if it's a write-in vote for Mickey Mouse, you have no right to complain how things turn out...

As for Mitt...I lived for 3+ years in the Salt Lick Valley...I experienced the kind of discrimination because of my religious beliefs that I didn't realize still existed in America.
I couldn't be more anti-Mormon if I tried...well, maybe...but not by much.

 

[FoBoT]

Originally posted by: Pabster
Absolutely not. He's an Arkansas Liberal, and belongs in the same drawer under the file Clinton, William J.

pretty much agree

and he is soft on illegal immigration, he is for amnesty

if Huck or Guilliani get the nod, i have to vote Libertarian like i did in 2000 or for an independent like i did in 1992

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: FoBoT

Originally posted by: Pabster
Absolutely not. He's an Arkansas Liberal, and belongs in the same drawer under the file Clinton, William J.

pretty much agree

and he is soft on illegal immigration, he is for amnesty

if Huck or Guilliani get the nod, i have to vote Libertarian like i did in 2000 or for an independent like i did in 1992

Or you can just not vote. It's not like your vote matters anyway. I never understood the passion to vote in Prez elections.

Well, unless youre an elector.

 

[Gunslinger08]

I really don't care about anything except for:
- No universal health care. It's a mistake.
- No amnesty for illegal immigrants.
- Lower tax burden. This means smaller government in general. Traditional conservatism.

I will vote for whichever candidate supports these ideals.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: joshsquall
I really don't care about anything except for:
- No universal health care. It's a mistake.
- No amnesty for illegal immigrants.
- Lower tax burden. This means smaller government in general. Traditional conservatism.

I will vote for whichever candidate supports these ideals.

Ron Paul.

 

[Legend]

Originally posted by: joshsquall
I really don't care about anything except for:
- No universal health care. It's a mistake.
- No amnesty for illegal immigrants.
- Lower tax burden. This means smaller government in general. Traditional conservatism.

I will vote for whichever candidate supports these ideals.

All Republican candidates will give you the first issue.

About half of the Republican candidates will give you #2, most of the others will claim to but will end up giving some sort of amnesty anyway.

Only Ron Paul will give you #3. Time and time again, we hear from Republicans about small government, and each time government increases in size under their rule. But Paul's voting history is absolutely consistent with small government. You can't reduce taxes without telling lobbyists to shut the fuck up and voting against any government spending that isn't warranted by the constitution.