ATOT please mess with this ebay scammer

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: Thraxen
The idiots are the people defending this auction. "Buyer beware", blah, blah, blah... Who cares? The auction's intent it to trick people. That should not be defended. If this was the gov't doing something like this then people would be crying foul. It may seem absurd to nearly everyone here that anyone would fall for this, but most people here are more tech savvy than your average consumer. I can see where someone might simply overlook the "box" part or simply think it's terminology for the iBook by itself with no cables (which is the intent of the part about no cables or software).

To be fair, the government DOES do stuff like this all the time, people DO cry foul, and NOTHING happens.

like what?

 

[neutralizer]

Originally posted by: Thraxen
The idiots are the people defending this auction. "Buyer beware", blah, blah, blah... Who cares? The auction's intent it to trick people. That should not be defended. If this was the gov't doing something like this then people would be crying foul. It may seem absurd to nearly everyone here that anyone would fall for this, but most people here are more tech savvy than your average consumer. I can see where someone might simply overlook the "box" part or simply think it's terminology for the iBook by itself with no cables (which is the intent of the part about no cables or software). Let me also add that I bet there are lots of people out there that would simply assume something like this is either illegal or not allowed on Ebay. Some people in this thread have even questioned if it was legal or allowed. So I can easily see someone less tech savvy not even considering that this could be such a scam.

His starting bid was $1. The second guy bidded $2 for it. I don't think he was trying to trick anyone. It clearly says box, and I looked at the picture... and it was REALLY obvious that it was just a box. It's really not the seller's fault that the buyer can't read.

 

[sillymofo]

WTF?>?!?!

 

[sillymofo]

I hate fusetalk.

 

[sillymofo]

Damn...

 

[sillymofo]

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: Thraxen The idiots are the people defending this auction. "Buyer beware", blah, blah, blah... Who cares? The auction's intent it to trick people. That should not be defended. If this was the gov't doing something like this then people would be crying foul. It may seem absurd to nearly everyone here that anyone would fall for this, but most people here are more tech savvy than your average consumer. I can see where someone might simply overlook the "box" part or simply think it's terminology for the iBook by itself with no cables (which is the intent of the part about no cables or software).

To be fair, the government DOES do stuff like this all the time, people DO cry foul, and NOTHING happens.

like what?

Let me be the first to say that this thread will soon be moved to P&N.

 

[neovan]

Originally posted by: cr4zymofo

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: Thraxen The idiots are the people defending this auction. "Buyer beware", blah, blah, blah... Who cares? The auction's intent it to trick people. That should not be defended. If this was the gov't doing something like this then people would be crying foul. It may seem absurd to nearly everyone here that anyone would fall for this, but most people here are more tech savvy than your average consumer. I can see where someone might simply overlook the "box" part or simply think it's terminology for the iBook by itself with no cables (which is the intent of the part about no cables or software).

To be fair, the government DOES do stuff like this all the time, people DO cry foul, and NOTHING happens.

like what?

Let me be the first to say that this thread will soon be moved to P&N.

wel...you'll be the first to say that 4 times

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: Thraxen
The idiots are the people defending this auction. "Buyer beware", blah, blah, blah... Who cares? The auction's intent it to trick people. That should not be defended. If this was the gov't doing something like this then people would be crying foul. It may seem absurd to nearly everyone here that anyone would fall for this, but most people here are more tech savvy than your average consumer. I can see where someone might simply overlook the "box" part or simply think it's terminology for the iBook by itself with no cables (which is the intent of the part about no cables or software).

To be fair, the government DOES do stuff like this all the time, people DO cry foul, and NOTHING happens.

like what?

Like....taking a zero-interest loan from you every year and then acting like they are doing you a favor when they refund your money come april?

 

[Tom]

It says it is "new".


That makes this most likely fraud. I'm sure Apple does not authorize whoever makes their boxes to sell them new on Ebay, so this box probably came with the computer in it.

If the computer is not still in it then it can't possibly be new, in fact at the point the computer was removed it has served it's purpose and is definately used.

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: Thraxen
The idiots are the people defending this auction. "Buyer beware", blah, blah, blah... Who cares? The auction's intent it to trick people. That should not be defended. If this was the gov't doing something like this then people would be crying foul. It may seem absurd to nearly everyone here that anyone would fall for this, but most people here are more tech savvy than your average consumer. I can see where someone might simply overlook the "box" part or simply think it's terminology for the iBook by itself with no cables (which is the intent of the part about no cables or software).

To be fair, the government DOES do stuff like this all the time, people DO cry foul, and NOTHING happens.

like what?

Like....taking a zero-interest loan from you every year and then acting like they are doing you a favor when they refund your money come april?

i wasnt being a smartass. i was just asking a question.

 

[Lithium381]

Originally posted by: RedPickle
What kind of moron bets on something without reading it clearly. Or even looking at the pics clearly. I say he deserves to learn a lesson.

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: Jzero

Originally posted by: MrDudeMan

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: Thraxen
The idiots are the people defending this auction. "Buyer beware", blah, blah, blah... Who cares? The auction's intent it to trick people. That should not be defended. If this was the gov't doing something like this then people would be crying foul. It may seem absurd to nearly everyone here that anyone would fall for this, but most people here are more tech savvy than your average consumer. I can see where someone might simply overlook the "box" part or simply think it's terminology for the iBook by itself with no cables (which is the intent of the part about no cables or software).

To be fair, the government DOES do stuff like this all the time, people DO cry foul, and NOTHING happens.

like what?

Like....taking a zero-interest loan from you every year and then acting like they are doing you a favor when they refund your money come april?

i wasnt being a smartass. i was just asking a question.

I wasn't being a smartass either. My response is dead serious. Although few people really cry foul anymore because the government has done such a good job of tricking us.

 

[daveymark]

It states in Auction "Brand NEw"

you can tell by the pic it's not new. File the claim with Paypal, "Item not as described", get the refund, case closed.

 

[iwearnosox]

Originally posted by: daveymark
It states in Auction "Brand NEw"

you can tell by the pic it's not new. File the claim with Paypal, "Item not as described", get the refund, case closed.

new ( P ) Pronunciation Key (n, ny)
adj. new·er, new·est

Having been made or come into being only a short time ago; recent: a new law.

Still fresh: a new coat of paint.
Never used or worn before now: a new car; a new hat.
Just found, discovered, or learned: new information.
Not previously experienced or encountered; novel or unfamiliar: ideas new to her.
Different from the former or the old: the new morality.
Recently obtained or acquired: new political power; new money.
Additional; further: new sources of energy.
Recently arrived or established in a place, position, or relationship: new neighbors; a new president.
Changed for the better; rejuvenated: The nap has made a new person of me.
Being the later or latest in a sequence: a new edition.
Currently fashionable: a new dance.
New In the most recent form, period, or development.
Inexperienced or unaccustomed: new at the job; new to the trials of parenthood.

 

[Ranger X]

Another vote for idiot needs to learn an expensive lesson.
That's what you get for not reading the auction page.

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: Thegonagle

Originally posted by: fredtam

Originally posted by: ai42
Yes I know the auction is legal but honestly we all know the sellers intentions here. Honestly he's just a jerk. I would hope you ATers would have a little integrity and wouldn't post junk like that.

His intentions were to sell a box. Would you be mad if it went for $3.50.

No. But the buy it now price of $500 indicates that his intent was to get a lot more than $3.50 for what amounts to kindling. (And the reserve price? How much was that? More than $3.50, I'm willing to bet.)

Well, the seller can INTEND to get a million dollars if he wants to, but it takes a stupid buyer to give it to him.

 

[benjamit]

buyer does not have to pay

negative feedback means very little on ebay

you're only as good as your last deal

i've left several negative feedbacks to non payers, doesnt stop them from bidding

 

[Thegonagle]

Originally posted by: Lithium381

Originally posted by: RedPickle
What kind of moron bets on something without reading it clearly. Or even looking at the pics clearly. I say he deserves to learn a lesson.

A $500 lesson? That's a lot of money--a week's pay for many, and enough that anyone who's half sane about their money should be mightily pissed about losing because they were SCAMMED!

Don't even try to tell me that the seller who put up a reserve price auction for a worthless box with $500 buy it now price (plus $10 shipping!) had honest intentions. There's no argument that could possibly convince me that this jerk-ass seller is on the up-and-up.

BTW, I reported the seller to eBay several hours ago, just in case (though unlikely) nobody else had yet.

 

[Jzero]

Originally posted by: Thegonagle

Originally posted by: Lithium381

Originally posted by: RedPickle
What kind of moron bets on something without reading it clearly. Or even looking at the pics clearly. I say he deserves to learn a lesson.

A $500 lesson? That's a lot of money--a week's pay for many, and enough that anyone who's half sane about their money should be mightily pissed about losing because they were SCAMMED!

Don't even try to tell me that the seller who put up a reserve price auction for a worthless box with $500 buy it now price (plus $10 shipping!) had honest intentions. There's no argument that could possibly convince me that this jerk-ass seller is on the up-and-up.

Ethics and Laws/Rules are not always perfectly aligned. The auction is quite clear. Is Ebay to ban the sale of cardboard boxes? The seller's intentions are quite clear, but he has done nothing against the rules. It's up to the buyer to get an education. And yes, when it comes to spending $500, I don't think it's unreasonable to do a little research before you plunk down the money.

 

[Tom]

"Is Ebay to ban the sale of cardboard boxes? "


yea, they should ban the sale of used boxes sold as new.

 

[NeoPTLD]

Could the seller use a collection agency to collect money from this buyer?

 

[bolido2000]

Originally posted by: NeoPTLD
Could the seller use a collection agency to collect money from this buyer?

I wouldn't worry much about this. The seller is going to get his ARSE nailed if the buyer really wants to. I remember reading a guy on ebay who did the same thing, but it was a "picture of 42inch plasma TV". Some moron paid like 1K and got a picture of a plasma. Sure enough he went to the police and the seller got nailed even though the auction clearly said the winner would only get a picture. The seller was found guilty and got his arse served

 

[bolido2000]

Originally posted by: NeoPTLD
Could the seller use a collection agency to collect money from this buyer?

I wouldn't worry much about this. The seller is going to get his ARSE nailed if the buyer really wants to. I remember reading a guy on ebay who did the same thing, but it was a "picture of 42inch plasma TV". Some moron paid like 1K and got a picture of a plasma. Sure enough he went to the police and the seller got nailed even though the auction clearly said the winner would only get a picture. The seller was found guilty and got his arse served

 

[Yossarian]

I REALLY WANTED THAT BOX SO EVERYONE STFU. I COLLECT THEM.

 

[sxr7171]

I hate to say this, but anyone who falls for that is buying a valuable and much needed lesson in life. Let them learn a $500 lesson instead of getting killed by doing something this stupid.