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MongGrel

Lifer
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Got the replacement lamp for my street light today. This is the old burned out lamp. When Metal Halide lamps burn out, the arc tube explodes.
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You replace your own streetlights ?

Was just curious, ni.

Rural ? We actually did have one big street light in our back yard that you could turn on from inside the house back in the 70's

Was an unusual feature at the house like a few other things.
 
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Rubycon

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When Metal Halide lamps burn out, the arc tube explodes.

Yes in corrective maintenance mode!

If the lamp is used past its life expectancy where its color temp drifts way warm and efficacy drops considerably, the arc tube temperature and pressure increases. Bulges form and it can rupture suddenly extinguishing the light. If the lamps are used in 24/7 operation their replacement cycle with good maintenance practice should be annually scheduled.

Mercury vapor lamps are quite tolerant of being operated way past their efficient lifetimes and be seen casting a dim green-ish glow producing single digit lumens per watt! In areas experiencing severe weather or where vandals may toss things at them occasionally one will find them still operating with the envelope missing. This is quite dangerous as an unprotected mercury tube produces copious amounts of UV-C that will burn skin and damage eyes. If they're up high no worries. Some feature a resistor looking device that will burn out in the presence of ambient air (>16% O2) so this does not happen. If the diffuser comes off in severe winds and rain strikes the envelope the sudden thermal shock usually causes it to shatter and the arc tube continues to operate...

HPS lamps have an interesting failure mode. The operating voltage to maintain a stable arc increases beyond the capability of the ballast/supply and will extinguish the lamp. When it cools down it will restrike, warm to operating temperature and output until it goes out. This is a positive signal of end of life for the lamp. A lot of HPS roadway fixtures can be found operating in this manner as well.

LPS lamps are quite interesting. They have near 0 CRI and are very, very yellow. Their efficacy can reach in the upper 100s of lumens/watt which makes them good for lighting large open areas where color rendering is of secondary concern (airports, railways, etc.) When cold, there is typically enough solidified pure sodium metal to produce some small fireworks if said tube is broken and tossed in a body of water. :D
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
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Random rain storm out of nowhere with some thunder. Fun! Rain is coming down crazy hard.

Issued at 22:22 Monday 17 October 2016

A fall storm expected for Northeastern Ontario tonight and Tuesday.

A low pressure system will emerge from Kansas and intensify as it moves across the Great Lakes tonight then quickly into Northern Quebec later on Tuesday.

Significant rain is expected with this storm, in the order of 20 to 30 millimetres with localized 40 mm likely in a few locales. Most of the rain will fall tonight and may be accompanied by some strong thunderstorms which may pack a bit of a punch with gusty winds and some hail.

The rain will taper off Tuesday morning.
 

MongGrel

Lifer
Dec 3, 2013
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Yes in corrective maintenance mode!

If the lamp is used past its life expectancy where its color temp drifts way warm and efficacy drops considerably, the arc tube temperature and pressure increases. Bulges form and it can rupture suddenly extinguishing the light. If the lamps are used in 24/7 operation their replacement cycle with good maintenance practice should be annually scheduled.

Mercury vapor lamps are quite tolerant of being operated way past their efficient lifetimes and be seen casting a dim green-ish glow producing single digit lumens per watt! In areas experiencing severe weather or where vandals may toss things at them occasionally one will find them still operating with the envelope missing. This is quite dangerous as an unprotected mercury tube produces copious amounts of UV-C that will burn skin and damage eyes. If they're up high no worries. Some feature a resistor looking device that will burn out in the presence of ambient air (>16% O2) so this does not happen. If the diffuser comes off in severe winds and rain strikes the envelope the sudden thermal shock usually causes it to shatter and the arc tube continues to operate...

HPS lamps have an interesting failure mode. The operating voltage to maintain a stable arc increases beyond the capability of the ballast/supply and will extinguish the lamp. When it cools down it will restrike, warm to operating temperature and output until it goes out. This is a positive signal of end of life for the lamp. A lot of HPS roadway fixtures can be found operating in this manner as well.

LPS lamps are quite interesting. They have near 0 CRI and are very, very yellow. Their efficacy can reach in the upper 100s of lumens/watt which makes them good for lighting large open areas where color rendering is of secondary concern (airports, railways, etc.) When cold, there is typically enough solidified pure sodium metal to produce some small fireworks if said tube is broken and tossed in a body of water. :D

I still suspect you are a real witch and walk around with a force field :)

ni
 
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Red Squirrel

No Lifer
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....and the power's out lol. I guess I should shut down my computer.

Hopefully it does not last more than 4 hours. My server UPS is good for about that long.
 

Mixolydian

Lifer
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Yes in corrective maintenance mode!

If the lamp is used past its life expectancy where its color temp drifts way warm and efficacy drops considerably, the arc tube temperature and pressure increases. Bulges form and it can rupture suddenly extinguishing the light. If the lamps are used in 24/7 operation their replacement cycle with good maintenance practice should be annually scheduled.

Mercury vapor lamps are quite tolerant of being operated way past their efficient lifetimes and be seen casting a dim green-ish glow producing single digit lumens per watt! In areas experiencing severe weather or where vandals may toss things at them occasionally one will find them still operating with the envelope missing. This is quite dangerous as an unprotected mercury tube produces copious amounts of UV-C that will burn skin and damage eyes. If they're up high no worries. Some feature a resistor looking device that will burn out in the presence of ambient air (>16% O2) so this does not happen. If the diffuser comes off in severe winds and rain strikes the envelope the sudden thermal shock usually causes it to shatter and the arc tube continues to operate...

HPS lamps have an interesting failure mode. The operating voltage to maintain a stable arc increases beyond the capability of the ballast/supply and will extinguish the lamp. When it cools down it will restrike, warm to operating temperature and output until it goes out. This is a positive signal of end of life for the lamp. A lot of HPS roadway fixtures can be found operating in this manner as well.

LPS lamps are quite interesting. They have near 0 CRI and are very, very yellow. Their efficacy can reach in the upper 100s of lumens/watt which makes them good for lighting large open areas where color rendering is of secondary concern (airports, railways, etc.) When cold, there is typically enough solidified pure sodium metal to produce some small fireworks if said tube is broken and tossed in a body of water. :D

Will you marry me?
 
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Red Squirrel

No Lifer
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That was quite the odd storm last night. Not really that intense just really long. Wind gusts of maybe 50km/h or so, nothing crazy but enough to notice. So much rain, it actually lasted the entire night. My power only went out for like 5 minutes though, came back as I was going to bed.
 

bigboxes

Lifer
Apr 6, 2002
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Making some chicken fingers nef.

Just prepackaged ones, probably not that good for me, but meh. Probably better than ordering something. :p

Got me some hot wings about an hour ago. I can make them but they are a pain. They were quite. Wifal unit complained about the heat. Whatever. They're hot wings!
 

Red Squirrel

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I love anything super hot. Only downside is I find my teeth are more sensitive to it now days, so I sometimes have to dial it down because of that.

There's a wing place here that has one called "Devil's Inferno". I still have to try those. you have to sign a waver. lol.
 

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Lifer
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I love anything super hot. Only downside is I find my teeth are more sensitive to it now days, so I sometimes have to dial it down because of that.

There's a wing place here that has one called "Devil's Inferno". I still have to try those. you have to sign a waver. lol.

These weren't super hot. Just normal buffalo wings (to me). I once went to BWW with some friends. I could handle heat. I didn't get the hottest sauce. No, I had to get the second hottest wings. Long story short, I was miserable. My lips wouldn't stop burning no matter what I ate or drank. Impossible to enjoy. I ate them anyway. LOL. I'm a doofus. :p I just had to be the tough guy.