++ ATOT official NEF thread part IV ++

[eldorado99]

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[eldorado99]

Sanguine = Ridiculous optimism.
solar in Canada is just not viable, Timmins gets even less sun than Toronto.

not true, depends on the application

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[MongGrel]

never been further south than Seattle in the states, unless you count Hawaii

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I doubt I'll ever get to your neck of the woods again myself, we can kinda hang out here

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[sdifox]

not true, depends on the application

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What do you mean application?

 

[MongGrel]

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[eldorado99]

What do you mean application?

i mean what it is being used for

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[Red Squirrel]

There is a solar farm in Thunder Bay area, that's even more north than me (I'm actually not that north in the grand scheme of things when you look at the map, about equal to Germany which has lot of solar) There's one in Ramore too, which is closer to me. I don't imagine the output is that great in winter though, but it's probably super good in summer. For a few months, our days are super long. You could run A/C straight off solar and have enough capacity to keep charging batteries if the A/C is in a decent on/off cycle and not just full pin non stop. The problem is an inverter that can run an A/C is going to cost more than the A/C unit itself lol. I was looking at the 8kw Outback Radian ones they are very interesting units. If I did my whole house, I'd probably go with two of those, for redundancy. That would run the central A/C + other loads. You can set it to start to use hydro if battery voltage gets too low.

My most realistic approach if I go solar is to just do the server room, then have 2 inverters, a 2kw one for the main server rack PDU, then a 4ish kw inverter for the secondary PDU + misc outlets throughout the house. Maybe lighting circuits too. The batteries are the biggest cost, the Trojan and Surrette batteries look decent. I think the Surrette ones are actually made in Canada.

I get all gigitty looking at all this solar/power stuff, but I realisticly can't afford any of it any time soon. I do need to start saving up though. Hydro is only going to keep costing more, once I pay and install this system I will just continue to save money over my life time once it's paid off.

One big issue though is freezing rain. Get that once, and you're screwed for the rest of that year. We used to only get that maybe once a year mid/near end of winter. Now we seem to get it more often. That stuff blows. Especially when it snows right after, creates an impenetrable crust of ice/snow.

 

[eldorado99]

I doubt I'll ever get to your neck of the woods again myself, we can kinda hang out here

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who knows, if you make a taco big enough i may have no choice, then lipo time after that

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[eldorado99]

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[Red Squirrel]

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[MongGrel]

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[Red Squirrel]

Aerospace tape smells funny

 

[eldorado99]

Aerospace tape smells funny

i just got one of those newer full size gaming mousepads that goes under your keyboard and mouse today, it smells really weird, hope it goes away

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[eldorado99]

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[eldorado99]

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[MongGrel]

i just got one of those newer full size gaming mousepads that goes under your keyboard and mouse today, it smells really weird, hope it goes away

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Probably will, I've just been a trackball fan a couple decades myself.

The only pads I have are on the Ergo keyboard, have been using those decades also. I probably need to buy one of those again someday, the letters are mostly worn off over the years on this one.

Sitting down to a computer with a mouse is no problem, but was used to trackballs even back in the day when they were YUUUUUUGE and doing CNC programming.

Was funny watching the wife use the trackball on the first one when I bought it, she was tryig to slide it on the desk out of habit.

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[sdifox]

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[MongGrel]

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[sdifox]

You were playing missile defence, not cnc :awe:

 

[eldorado99]

Probably will, I've just been a trackball fan a couple decades myself.

The only pads I have are on the Ergo keyboard, have been using those decades also. I probably need to buy one of those again someday, the letters are mostly worn off over the years on this one.

Sitting down to a computer with a mouse is no problem, but was used to trackballs even back in the day when they were YUUUUUUGE and doing CNC programming.

Was funny watching the wife use the trackball on the first one when I bought it, she was tryig to slide it on the desk out of habit.

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lol it is certainly something you have to get used to. The odd time I sit down at a desk with one of those things I can't figure out how they work.

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[MongGrel]

You were playing missile defence, not cnc :awe:

Nah, was 3 Wire EDM machines at the time, and was doing a lot of the design without a degree.



Real Missile Defense came about a decade later when I was working on THAADS, SLAMMER, TALON, Missiles and Interceptors, SASSO, and PII.

Some of those acronyms are long gone and not public knowledge anyway, so there is nothing to look up online.

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[eldorado99]

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[Red Squirrel]

I remember the Unisys Icons in school, big keyboard with the huge track ball on the side. Those things were fun! I did not know much about computers back then, but I can almost still visualize it, and I would guess it ran some kind of X11 Unixy type system. There was always one computer at the end of the lab that nobody was allowed to touch, it was the "server". It was usually an Icon 3. The Icon 1's were standard, if you got lucky and got on an Icon 2 you could play certain games that did not work on the 1's. I don't recall if the 3's were widely usable by students.

 

[WaTaGuMp]

DVR paused, popcorn Mountain Dew and Survivor night.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Potential OT tomorrow, scheduled off but there's a project going on that they might need for, a large customer switching their phone system to VOIP, have to program and change all the phones.