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sdifox

sdifox

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rudeguy said:
they want an appointment to set it up. I asked what needed to be set up that I couldn't do at home. They said "lots of things. Its completely different than your old one. ITS DIGITAL!". Umm...the old one was digital too. They all are. "Oh..well it has lots of new features that your old one doesn't." OK..could you name a couple? "Sir don't use that language!"

So I asked them to set an appointment for Wed, since the pump will be delivered to their office either today or tomorrow. "No. We can't set an appointment until its here. What if something happens in the shipping department?" Its already been shipped. "Well I can't schedule anything until we receive it." How do I know you will call me when you receive it? You haven't returned any of my calls so far? "Well we just have to."

Fuck off.
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lulz
 
Barfo

Barfo

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rudeguy said:
they want an appointment to set it up. I asked what needed to be set up that I couldn't do at home. They said "lots of things. Its completely different than your old one. ITS DIGITAL!". Umm...the old one was digital too. They all are. "Oh..well it has lots of new features that your old one doesn't." OK..could you name a couple? "Sir don't use that language!"

So I asked them to set an appointment for Wed, since the pump will be delivered to their office either today or tomorrow. "No. We can't set an appointment until its here. What if something happens in the shipping department?" Its already been shipped. "Well I can't schedule anything until we receive it." How do I know you will call me when you receive it? You haven't returned any of my calls so far? "Well we just have to."

Fuck off.
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Holy shit
 
rudeguy

rudeguy

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sdifox said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Pratchett
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his eyebrows scare me


Another day of failures. I have mastered getting the new solder balls on the new chip but I'm not 100% sure on alignment. I am 90% sure they are lined up but since I cracked the prism I can't tell for sure.

When I start up the machine, its dead. It has power but no input/output. So its either the chip isn't lined up or the new chip needs flashing. I tried to use an old chip, then solder it on like a new one but the old chip's pegs disappear after removing the old solder. I'm not sure where they go. The chip's surface is flat and smooth. So I can't test it that way.

I could get a chip programmer. They copy one chip to another. I figure its kind of like ghosting a hard drive? But I can't promise that would work. On the flip side...they are about the same cost as a new prism.

I just wish there was some way to check all this without guessing. Even though its an educated guess, it still bothers me that I have no way to confirm or repute any of my theories. Verifone won't even respond to my emails and there is no one else out there doing what I'm doing to be able to bounce ideas off of. The IT manager here is cool and pretends to get it...but he doesn't. What he knows is what I gathered from reading the BGA soldering Wiki page. Nothing against him...he just isn't much help.

I'm flustered by this. I'm not used to not being able to figure things out. I think I have it figured out and then something else doesn't work. Its like banging my dick in a car door waiting for it to get hard.
 
sdifox

sdifox

No Lifer
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rudeguy said:
his eyebrows scare me


Another day of failures. I have mastered getting the new solder balls on the new chip but I'm not 100% sure on alignment. I am 90% sure they are lined up but since I cracked the prism I can't tell for sure.

When I start up the machine, its dead. It has power but no input/output. So its either the chip isn't lined up or the new chip needs flashing. I tried to use an old chip, then solder it on like a new one but the old chip's pegs disappear after removing the old solder. I'm not sure where they go. The chip's surface is flat and smooth. So I can't test it that way.

I could get a chip programmer. They copy one chip to another. I figure its kind of like ghosting a hard drive? But I can't promise that would work. On the flip side...they are about the same cost as a new prism.

I just wish there was some way to check all this without guessing. Even though its an educated guess, it still bothers me that I have no way to confirm or repute any of my theories. Verifone won't even respond to my emails and there is no one else out there doing what I'm doing to be able to bounce ideas off of. The IT manager here is cool and pretends to get it...but he doesn't. What he knows is what I gathered from reading the BGA soldering Wiki page. Nothing against him...he just isn't much help.

I'm flustered by this. I'm not used to not being able to figure things out. I think I have it figured out and then something else doesn't work. Its like banging my dick in a car door waiting for it to get hard.
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Been telling you that work is not meant to be manual work :whiste:
 
rudeguy

rudeguy

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sdifox said:
Been telling you that work is not meant to be manual work :whiste:
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I know...and I told the owner that I made no promises. But I have a ton of time invested and I hate giving up.

I think I'll do some research on those chip programmers. That way I can present him an option and let him decide. I just wish I could try it first.
 
sdifox

sdifox

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rudeguy said:
its cheap shit

$3 for 250k balls
$7 for a chip
$2 for solder and shit

Why can't they just go in the hole like normal chips? Its warm in there...they would like it.
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not the actual solder balls, the equipment and tools. :whiste:
 
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