++ ATOT official NEF thread part IV ++

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MotF Bane

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That sure isn't an easy fit... and leaves me wondering how anybody does a V8 swap.

But, also, DEAR MAZDA, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, LEARN FROM THIS.
 

MotF Bane

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2350 pounds stock, add 200 pounds for the motor swap. 2550.

Now let's see... treat this as a center of mass... no, two center of mass problems?
 

busydude

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It has, but part of being a fan is accepting the good AND the bad. That makes the good times SO much more enjoyable.

Plus the Rams aren't as bad as their record indicates this year.

:hmm:

I do not associate myself to a particular American City. I don't think I can be a passionate fan of any particular team.
 

MotF Bane

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200 pounds over the front axle would be mostly front axle increase, but some of the weight will be carried by the body of the car to the rear axle. That would have to do with... the spring rate.
 

MotF Bane

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VQ35DE around 320? I'd guess more once it's finished. Still could feasibly be only a 100 lb. difference.
 

MotF Bane

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Of course, the N/A VQ35DE doesn't have that much more power than the first turbo kit for the 1.8L I4, and has less power than the second stage turbo kit.
 

MotF Bane

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So an N/A V8 is good... but I like the idea of a turbo motor. Not so much an SC motor, that's parasitic. A turbo scavenges, it's efficient, and that's appealing.

A single turbo doesn't really work on a V8, but twin turbo V8 means silly amounts of power - like an effortless 550. Like 1000 with some building and tuning.
 

MotF Bane

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550 is already too much for a Miata though, because, being a V8, it has this wonderful thing called "torque", and 550 ft-lbs going down to two skinny little wheels with only 1200 lbs on top of them doesn't get very far.
 

MotF Bane

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So it'd need to plus size the wheels, put on enormous slabs of super-wide tires, probably drag radials even, then get fender flares attached to overhang the tires properly.
 

MotF Bane

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One of the big arguments against taller wheels is that it slows the car... well, with better than 500 WHP/WTQ, that's not a concern.

And taller wheels permit lower profiles, i.e. lower sidewall, meaning quicker response.