++ ATOT official NEF thread part IV ++

[IndyColtsFan]

ME is more awesome than EE... if you actually got to work on the cool things, or do the designs like they love to show in their portfolios.

Meh, wait until you get to VLSI design or other design courses where you get to build your designs.

 

[MotF Bane]

The dude is a troll and posts these stupid polls all the time. He was embarrassed the last time he posted a similar poll and looks like he will be this time as well.

I'm sorry, but software engineering is NOT engineering. It is computer programming. There, I said it.

Software engineering is barely even computer science, it's more like light CS with a heavy dose of management.

But either way, you're absolutely right, software engineering is not engineering. I had that argument several times when I was at RIT. My roommate started in ITS, then went to CS. Of the three guys we knew down the hall, two of them were CS, and one of them was NSSA. Ergo, I was significantly outnumbered.

 

[MotF Bane]

Meh, wait until you get to VLSI design or other design courses where you get to build your designs.

Don't get me wrong, VSLI is interesting... but if I can touch it, I'm much more interested. And you can't really touch the transistors of a VLSI design, but when I hear ME, I think cars, motors, oil rigs, heavy equipment, automated machinery, that sort of thing. That's fascinating stuff. Doing a circuit is a means to an end, and I want that end to move something in the real physical world on a visible and tangible scale.

 

[Wanescotting]

pc load letter...WTF?

 

[MotF Bane]

<<<------Hates the colts, but still likes IndyColtsFan

I, too, hate the Colts, though I must respect them (mostly just one man). But ICF is awesome.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Software engineering is barely even computer science, it's more like light CS with a heavy dose of management.

But either way, you're absolutely right, software engineering is not engineering. I had that argument several times when I was at RIT. My roommate started in ITS, then went to CS. Of the three guys we knew down the hall, two of them were CS, and one of them was NSSA. Ergo, I was significantly outnumbered.

Microsoft dropped the word "Engineer" out of their certification titles because, IIRC, the word had specific legal meaning in Canada (and probably other places) and Canada pitched a bitch. For once, Canada did something right.

If you call yourself an engineer, you'd better have a degree from an ABET-accredited engineering school in my opinion. Am I a snob? Maybe, but I am right in this case.

 

[MotF Bane]

The dude is a troll and posts these stupid polls all the time. He was embarrassed the last time he posted a similar poll and looks like he will be this time as well.

Oh, it's that moron.

 

[Wanescotting]

Oh, it's that moron.

Maybe I could do a parody, hmmm gotta be crafty

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Don't get me wrong, VSLI is interesting... but if I can touch it, I'm much more interested. And you can't really touch the transistors of a VLSI design, but when I hear ME, I think cars, motors, oil rigs, heavy equipment, automated machinery, that sort of thing. That's fascinating stuff. Doing a circuit is a means to an end, and I want that end to move something in the real physical world on a visible and tangible scale.

You should switch to ME or, perhaps, focus on electromechanics if your school has the courses in things like motors, power, etc.

 

[MotF Bane]

Microsoft dropped the word "Engineer" out of their certification titles because, IIRC, the word had specific legal meaning in Canada (and probably other places) and Canada pitched a bitch. For once, Canada did something right.

If you call yourself an engineer, you'd better have a degree from an ABET-accredited engineering school in my opinion. Am I a snob? Maybe, but I am right in this case.

If you call yourself an engineer, you'd better be able to do at least a few of the following...

1) Do Calculus
2) Do Physics
3) Build a circuit
4) Design a simple machine
5) Figure out bridge construction
6) Know where to find crude oil

What say you?

 

[IndyColtsFan]

But ICF is awesome.

:$

 

[MotF Bane]

I just saw the link to Maxwell's Equations.

I may have just shit a brick.

 

[MotF Bane]

You should put forth your Software Engineering is fake engineering hypothesis in that thread.

RAISE HELL!

 

[IndyColtsFan]

If you call yourself an engineer, you'd better be able to do at least a few of the following...

1) Do Calculus

After 15 years, I might need a few minutes to brush up, but no problem.

2) Do Physics

Same as above.

3) Build a circuit

I think I could still design simple devices. When I booted up my Amiga from its long slumber, I found hardware design schematics on it for RAM expansions, etc.

4) Design a simple machine

Yep.

5) Figure out bridge construction

Probably could do it.

6) Know where to find crude oil

Saudi Arabia! :awe:

 

[IndyColtsFan]

You should put forth your Software Engineering is fake engineering hypothesis in that thread.

RAISE HELL!

I almost did, but I decided not to.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

I just saw the link to Maxwell's Equations.

I may have just shit a brick.

That was EE311 when I was in school. Electromagnetics, a course which was supposed to separate the men from boys in EE. I aced it. I usually aced the hard courses and the easy courses were the ones that caused me to sweat for some reason.

 

[Wanescotting]

I felt the hate rise up in me, kneel down and clear the stone of leaves...

 

[IndyColtsFan]

I still have nightmares of calculating electric and magnetic field forces on a plane due to a toroid floating in space x meters away!

 

[Wanescotting]

+1

 

[MotF Bane]

Nef.

 

[MotF Bane]

I felt the hate rise up in me, kneel down and clear the stone of leaves...

Slipknot, Wait and Bleed.

 

[MotF Bane]

I still have nightmares of calculating electric and magnetic field forces on a plane due to a toroid floating in space x meters away!

*shudder*

 

[Krynj]

Now build me one of these!

Not sure if I like these speakers either.

 

[Wanescotting]

Slipknot, Wait and Bleed.

yes, strangley enough, I only like their live 9.0 album.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

nef out. Need to get to bed for more exciting training tomorrow! Looks like rebuilding my lab may be a weekend project.