++ ATOT official NEF thread part IV ++

[MotF Bane]

Or, I could build another beast with tons of RAM, tons of drives, tons of cores, etc.

But why?

 

[MotF Bane]

I think I must agree with Manning for MVP.

And if we want to disregard inactive players, probably Rodgers. It's like watching another team with Brady, except he runs more.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

The biggest reason I don't want another machine is the cost of powering it... I'm considering a nas of some sort though but not an entire machine

My biggest issue with a large server is the heat output in my man cave. If I could move it elsewhere, I probably would be more open to a beast design.

Of course, the design I am envisioning would probably be double or triple the cost of my current server. Sure, the drives would likely be much cheaper (I spent $1200 on drives alone in 2007) but with the number of drives I would likely have, I'd probably have to spend big bucks on a RAID card.

 

[alfa147x]

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[alfa147x]

My biggest issue with a large server is the heat output in my man cave. If I could move it elsewhere, I probably would be more open to a beast design.

Of course, the design I am envisioning would probably be double or triple the cost of my current server. Sure, the drives would likely be much cheaper (I spent $1200 on drives alone in 2007) but with the number of drives I would likely have, I'd probably have to spend big bucks on a RAID card.

woah. What do you need that many drives for?

 

[MotF Bane]

Nef!

 

[IndyColtsFan]

But why?

That's just it -- nothing except my lust for gadgets and hardware.

I don't use the server like I have in years past. A few years ago, I hosted several internet-facing sites, an email server, etc. Now? Pretty much everything is internal only. I started a security project to secure everything better and had considered bringing email back in house, but unfortunately, some of the software I intended to use didn't function the way I intended so I've temporarily placed that project on hold. I doubt I'll bring email back in-house as it is a PITA.

 

[alfa147x]

Using access makes me feel like a retard.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

woah. What do you need that many drives for?

If I decide that I need more VM capacity, I'd probably want to increase the spindle count to increase performance. Disk performance in VMware is one of the big hurdles to overcome and even on my existing server with a RAID volume, it seems slow. True, RAID5 isn't ideal for write operations and what I'd probably do is dedicate an array running at RAID0 or RAID10 to VMWare.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

And, I finally did kick my friend off my servers and made him move his lab elsewhere.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

In all likelihood, I go the small box route if I upgrade at all. I really do like having a network file server, though.

 

[alfa147x]

If I decide that I need more VM capacity, I'd probably want to increase the spindle count to increase performance. Disk performance in VMware is one of the big hurdles to overcome and even on my existing server with a RAID volume, it seems slow. True, RAID5 isn't ideal for write operations and what I'd probably do is dedicate an array running at RAID0 or RAID10 to VMWare.

kinda makes sense you need a server

 

[IndyColtsFan]

kinda makes sense you need a server

We'll see where my career goes in the next year or two. If I do make the jump to project management, my server needs would be extremely basic. Even today, with the elimination of my HTPC (though I am running a virtual copy of it ), I don't need the disk space because we really don't watch movies off the server. So basically, in a year or two, it may be that I just need a box that can be expanded in terms of RAM and drives but just needs to start off running file services and maybe a domain controller VM. I could get away with using a small box with 4 GB of RAM for something that modest.

 

[MotF Bane]

Nef.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

I love big iron and big server boxes, but I know I can't justify them and now that we're almost out of the "making changes to the house" phase, our attention will likely turn to lots of travel. Spending money on that, coupled with the fact that server uses are hard to clarify at this time, means I'll probably go light or just extend the existing box.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

We will probably do yearly or bi-yearly overseas trips once we're done with the latest couple of projects with the house. I can't wait for that to happen.

 

[alfa147x]

We'll see where my career goes in the next year or two. If I do make the jump to project management, my server needs would be extremely basic. Even today, with the elimination of my HTPC (though I am running a virtual copy of it ), I don't need the disk space because we really don't watch movies off the server. So basically, in a year or two, it may be that I just need a box that can be expanded in terms of RAM and drives but just needs to start off running file services and maybe a domain controller VM. I could get away with using a small box with 4 GB of RAM for something that modest.

ah

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Of course, if I weren't married, I'd probably have an entire datacenter and host tons of stuff.

 

[alfa147x]

Im looking forward to getting FCX setup on my 2600k

Render times with that speed and amount of ram are goign to amazing

 

[alfa147x]

Of course, if I weren't married, I'd probably have an entire datacenter and host tons of stuff.

That's why you have an office and a man cave

 

[alfa147x]

im really surprised that the C2Q are holding their value so well...

 

[IndyColtsFan]

im really surprised that the C2Q are holding their value so well...

In general, all of the Core 2s (duo and quad) are still really strong performers. The only reason I upgraded was because I wanted 2 extra cores and there was no way I was going to spend $300 on a C2Q when I could get the 2600K for that price. Had I built with a C2Q in 2008 I may not have upgraded yet.

 

[alfa147x]

In general, all of the Core 2s (duo and quad) are still really strong performers. The only reason I upgraded was because I wanted 2 extra cores and there was no way I was going to spend $300 on a C2Q when I could get the 2600K for that price. Had I built with a C2Q in 2008 I may not have upgraded yet.

I spent $440 on mb, cpu, and ram. I have offers for the CPU and mobo around $200 for both. I'm hoping to get at least $30 - $40 for 6gb of DDR2
Looks like my upgrade is going to cost me around $200 + video + case

Total around $400

 

[sdifox]

ni

 

[alfa147x]

Jj