ATOT grammar Nazis needed

rocadelpunk

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Facing the consequences of my action has been my life's most shameful and yet maturing experience

Facing the consequences of my action has been my life's most shameful, but maturing experience

Facing the consequences of my action has been my life's most shameful, but yet maturing experience

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I simply wanted to disappear, as I felt I had betrayed the people I admired most: jeopardizing their respect and trust for me

I simply wanted to disappear, as I felt I had betrayed the people I admired most; jeopardizing their respect and trust for me


Or something else?

Thanks!

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Canai

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Well, you don't need the apostrophe in the title, Nazi should be capitalized, and it's ATOT.
 

thirtythree

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Also, is maturing an adjective? Sounds kind of strange to me. Maybe you should just reword that sentence.
 

Aluvus

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"Facing the consequences of my action has been my life's most shameful, yet maturing experience"

This seems very wordy.


"I simply wanted to disappear, as I felt I had betrayed the people I admired most, jeopardizing their respect and trust for me"

A comma is the less-bad solution here, but this is a terrible run-on sentence. "Simply" is an awkward word to use here.
 

irishScott

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1. "and yet" or "but". Don't know the specific grammar rules, but both sound correct to me.
"Shameful, yet maturing" sounds better than all IMO.

2. Keep the semicolon.
 
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No, there is no semi-colon in the second one, or at least not where he put it. A semi-colon is used to link two ideas that reference each other but can still exist as independent sentences. "Jeopardizing their respect and trust for me" is not a complete sentence; it would be improper to use a semi-colon in this example. This sentence reads best as "I simply wanted to disappear; I felt I had betrayed the people I admired most, jeopardizing their respect and trust for me."

As for the first sentence, your best bet is, "Facing the consequences of my action has been my life's most shameful, yet maturing, experience." It's a bit of an awkward sentence, but it's passable.

-EDIT- Also, this sounds like a doozy of a letter. Perhaps you should post the entire thing for us to "proofread."
 

eits

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"Facing the consequences of my action has been my life's most shameful, yet maturing, experience" <--- the commas are in bold... you can't tell.

edit: "I simply wanted to disappear; I felt I had betrayed the people I admired most and jeoparded their respect and trust for me"
 

rocadelpunk

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Throughout my adolescence I attended a small K-12 school. It was a home away from home and by my senior year I was friends with nearly every teacher and administrator. Many of whom I still keep in touch with and visit regularly. However, it was not till my senior year that I began to fully appreciate their dedication and guidance. During that year I cheated on a computer science project. Facing the consequences of my action has been my life's most shameful, yet maturing experience. It's been several years and I still vividly remember my parent's and teacher's disappointed reactions. I wanted to disappear as I felt I had betrayed the people I admired most, jeopardizing their respect and trust for me. It was a difficult day when I went to defend myself from expulsion. Yet, it was also very revealing as I barely spoke a word. My mentor spoke first on my behalf, saying how valuable I was to the community and how she was still so proud. This was followed by every teacher on the review committee sharing personal stories, shared experiences and advice. They knew the effect they had on me and I hope one day I too will have a similar influence on my students, where expectations are held in the highest of regards. It was those teachers, my second family, who helped shape me into the educated, socially responsible man I am today.

I believe every person should have access to such a quality education. Such an education would not only prepare someone to follow their dreams, but also guides them through their failures. Personally, I want my talents and experiences to contribute to the greater good and education is the impetus through which I find the strength to sacrifice and serve others. It is my sincere desire to make education my life?s work and continue my teachers' legacies.

However, I am cognizant how difficult it is to be a teacher. Although eager, I am not quite ready to be in a classroom and succeed to my expectations. With Arizona State's program, especially TEAMS, I would receive more than adequate preparation. The program would also make for an easier transition to Arizona, allowing myself to become familiar with Tempe's local school systems. Additionally, while studying at Arizona State, I would have time to become more proficient in the Spanish language. As well as perform research pertaining to how best to attract more students, especially women and minorities, to the sciences.

Luckily, I have had many one-on-one and group experiences with students of varying backgrounds and believe this will help me in my goals. I began tutoring in high-school and have continued throughout college. At my high-school, during the day, I would help middle school students in mathematics and Latin. I also helped start a volunteer tutoring program at a local inner city school. There I prepared students for the state proficiency exams. In actuality, I was teaching the basics of reading, writing, arithmetic and geography. This had a profound impact as it gave me a personal appreciation for those born into extraordinary circumstances. Since then I have mainly tutored mathematics to college aged students. While teaching friends is always a challenge, I have learned the most in the free tutor rooms at Ohio State. There my most difficult task was to reach those who had given up all hope, while paying attention to the other twenty or so students. This background has prepared me well: improving my patience and communication, as well as my ability to interpret body language. Most of all, I've come to appreciate how every day I can learn from others, as much as they can from me.

In all honesty, I would happily teach any subject under most any circumstances. Yet, I find mathematics to be both blissfully challenging and elegant. I will forever enjoy relating my passion in pertinent ways to others. Yet, I know the benefits and importance that all subjects have; hence, I am greatly looking forward to endear in my students an appreciation for all forms of learning. Eventually, I will be many things for my students: a leader, an inspiration, a coach. Yet, above all I want to help each student realize and reach their full potential.

(I would say I'm just mostly looking for comma/punctuation help & if a sentence doesn't make sense) : )
 

jonks

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just a quick run through

Originally posted by: rocadelpunk
Throughout my adolescence I attended a small K-12 school. It was a home away from home and by my senior year I was friends with nearly every teacher and administrator. Many of whom I still keep in touch with and visit regularly.

Sentence fragment

However, it was not till my senior year that I began to fully appreciate their dedication and guidance. During that year I cheated on a computer science project. Facing the consequences of my action has been my life's most shameful, yet maturing experience. It's been several years and I still vividly remember my parent's and teacher's disappointed reactions.

parents' and teachers' (assuming you have more than one parent and teacher)

I wanted to disappear as I felt I had betrayed the people I admired most, jeopardizing their respect and trust for me. It was a difficult day when I went to defend myself from expulsion. Yet, it was also very revealing as I barely spoke a word. My mentor spoke first on my behalf, saying how valuable I was to the community and how she was still so proud. This was followed by every teacher on the review committee sharing personal stories, shared experiences and advice. They knew the effect they had on me and I hope one day I too will have a similar influence on my students, where expectations are held in the highest of regards.

held in the highest regard.

It was those teachers, my second family, who helped shape me into the educated, socially responsible man I am today.

I believe every person should have access to such a quality education. Such an education would not only prepare someone to follow their dreams, but also guides them through their failures. Personally, I want my talents and experiences to contribute to the greater good and education is the impetus through which I find the strength to sacrifice and serve others. It is my sincere desire to make education my life?s work and continue my teachers' legacies.

However, I am cognizant how difficult it is to be a teacher. Although eager, I am not quite ready to be in a classroom and succeed to my expectations. With Arizona State's program, especially TEAMS, I would receive more than adequate preparation. The program would also make for an easier transition to Arizona, allowing myself to become familiar with Tempe's local school systems. Additionally, while studying at Arizona State, I would have time to become more proficient in the Spanish language. As well as perform research pertaining to how best to attract more students, especially women and minorities, to the sciences.

sentence fragment

Luckily, I have had many one-on-one and group experiences with students of varying backgrounds and believe this will help me in my goals. I began tutoring in high-school and have continued throughout college. At my high-school,

high school, no -

during the day, I would help middle school students in mathematics and Latin. I also helped start a volunteer tutoring program at a local inner city school. There I prepared students for the state proficiency exams. In actuality, I was teaching the basics of reading, writing, arithmetic and geography. This had a profound impact as it gave me a personal appreciation for those born into extraordinary circumstances. Since then I have mainly tutored mathematics to college aged students.

drop 'aged'

While teaching friends is always a challenge, I have learned the most in the free tutor rooms at Ohio State. There my most difficult task was to reach those who had given up all hope, while paying attention to the other twenty or so students. This background has prepared me well: improving my patience and communication

a style choice, but I'd reword to avoid all ; and :

, as well as my ability to interpret body language. Most of all, I've come to appreciate how every day I can learn from others, as much as they can from me.

In all honesty, I would happily teach any subject under most any circumstances. Yet, I find mathematics to be both blissfully challenging and elegant. I will forever enjoy relating my passion in pertinent ways to others. Yet, I know the benefits and importance that all subjects have; hence, I am greatly looking forward to endear

'instill' works better imo.

in my students an appreciation for all forms of learning. Eventually, I will be many things for my students: a leader, an inspiration, a coach. Yet, above all I want to help each student realize and reach their full potential.

(I would say I'm just mostly looking for comma/punctuation help & if a sentence doesn't make sense) : )

 

zinfamous

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First sentence: "and yet"
also: " maturing, and yet," would work.

Second sentence: use a comma.

rule for semicolon: the clauses separated by semicolon can stand as complete sentences on their own. The second clause would be a fragment.
 
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Originally posted by: sirjonk
While teaching friends is always a challenge, I have learned the most in the free tutor rooms at Ohio State. There my most difficult task was to reach those who had given up all hope, while paying attention to the other twenty or so students. This background has prepared me well: improving my patience and communication

a style choice, but I'd reword to avoid all ; and :

I'll give this a more thorough look later, but this struck me. "This background has prepared me well: improving my patience and communication." Replace the colon with a comma. "This background has prepared me well, improving my patience and communication, as well as my ability to interpret body language."

Never start a sentence with "As well as." Starting a sentence with those words almost guarantees you are writing a sentence fragment. If you want to start a new sentence with the same basic idea as "as well as," try "In addition," (note the comma). However, this particular stylistic choice can seem sloppy, so it's best to use it sparingly.
 

Daverino

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Certainly not a semicolon in the second example. Semicolons separate sentences, and since 'jeopardizing. . .' is a clause, that won't do.

'I simply wanted to disappear, as I felt I had betrayed the people I admired most; jeopardizing their respect and trust for me' is simply a run-on sentence. It's actually three sentences smooshed into one. I think better is:

'I simply wanted to disappear. I felt I had betrayed the people I admired the most and jeopardized their respect and trust for me."

Another comment is that 'simply' is usually a garbage word. "I wanted to disappear" is much stronger.

"It was a home away from home and by my senior year I was friends with nearly every teacher and administrator. " This is a cliche. There's always something better than a cliche

However, it was not till my senior year that I began to fully appreciate their dedication and guidance. Use 'until' instead of 'till.' 'Fully' is a garbage word.

During that year I cheated on a computer science project. 'During' is obvious and implied, so not really needed

It's been several years and I still vividly remember my parent's and teacher's disappointed reactions. It's should be expanded as it's really 'it has.' Since tense is being emphasized (i.e. this is a past event), using the past indicator here will help. Shy away from adverbs when an adjective can be used.

Yet, it was also very revealing as I barely spoke a word. However is better than 'yet.' Also don't use 'as' as a conjunction too frequently. It's a bit awkward and can be used to make things interesting, but it's going to be distracting if you use it often

how she was still so proud. Don't need 'so' here

This was followed by every teacher on the review committee Stronger is 'Each teacher on the review committee followed,'

They knew the effect they had on me and I hope one day I too will have a similar influence on my students, where expectations are held in the highest of regards. Run on sentence and confused tense (you suddenly jump to the present with 'hope')

It was those teachers, my second family, who helped Stronger is 'Those teachers, my second family, helped.'

access to such a quality education. Such doesn't add to the sentence here

Such an education would not only prepare someone to follow their dreams, but also guides A (strong) eduction prepares someone to follow their dreams and also guides

Personally, I want my talents and experiences to contribute to the greater good and education is the impetus through which I find the strength to sacrifice and serve others. Probably better as two strong sentences

It is my sincere desire You probably already know what I think about 'sincere.' We'd like to believe all your desires are sincere

However, I am cognizant how difficult Esoteric words can break the flow of an essay. A simpler word like 'Aware' would probably be better

Although eager, I am not quite ready to be in a classroom and succeed to my expectations. Urgh. A bunch of things here. . . Avoid clauses before the subject. Lead with 'I am' instead of 'Although eager.' 'Quite' is another one of those garbage words. 'Succeed to my expectations' is awkward and 'meet my expectations' is more accepted.

receive more than adequate preparation. Probably a stronger positive than 'more than adequate,' which is pretty weak, could be used here

transition to Arizona, allowing myself Better would be 'and allow me'

As well as perform research pertaining to how best to attract more students, especially women and minorities, to the sciences. Sentence fragment, as already pointed out. Could be 'I also wish to perform. . .'

Luckily, I have had many Luck really wasn't involved. This word can be removed

At my high-school, during the day, You don't need to mention this was during the day unless you then say what you did during the evening

at a local inner city school. There I prepared Actually, here a conjunction would be suitable. 'inner city school where I. . .'

In actuality, Ugh

This had a profound impact upon whom?

Since then I have mainly tutored mathematics to college Stronger is 'I have continued to tutor mathematics with . . '

While teaching friends is always a challenge, I have Try 'Teaching friends is always a challenge, and I have'

There my most difficult 'There' is unnecessary

: improving my patience and . It has improved my patient,

Most of all, I've come to appreciate how every day I can learn from others, as much as they can from me. Most of all is not needed. The end is a fragment. You can use a colon there if you want

In all honesty, I would happily teach any subject under most any circumstances I would be happy teaching any subject under any circumstances

Yet, I find Do not need the 'yet'

I will forever enjoy 'Always' is more appropriate than 'forever' here

passion in pertinent ways to 'Pertinent ways' is very much implied here, so it can be dropped

Yet, I know Another unneeded 'yet'

that all subjects have; hence, I am greatly . . . of all subjects. I am greatly . . .

forward to endear in my students an to endearing my students with

Yet, above Yet again, another yet

Please don't take this as harsh. I do a lot of editing and proofing in my line of work.
 

rocadelpunk

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just wanted to thank you guys again, got into the program : )

and I found some old grammar books to practice with : P
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: rocadelpunk
just wanted to thank you guys again, got into the program : )

and I found some old grammar books to practice with : P

"... with which to practice."

congrats, btw