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ATOT effect needed - Petition against VA's traffic fines

Hammerhead

Platinum Member
This is a petition against the Virginia traffic fines recently discussed in ATOT:
ATOT thread

If you don't live in VA, help out anyways.

Petition


We, the citizens of Virginia, are opposed to the outrageous and unjust traffic fines imposed as "civil remedial fees" in House Bill 3202 for the following reasons:

1. The fines inflict a punishment on drivers that is disproportionate to the degree of the offense they committed.
2. The fines are mandatory, and judges are given no discretion in sentencing.
3. The language of the bill states that the purpose is to "generate revenue" and hence the fines have nothing to do with traffic safety.
4. The bill's sponsor, Del. David Albo (R- 42nd District) is a partner in a law firm that specializes in traffic court cases and stands to benefit personally from this legislation. This type of conflict of interest should not be tolerated.
5. The fines in the bill apply ONLY to Virginia residents, hence unfairly creating different penalties for the same traffic offense based solely on residency.
6. In order to generate additional revenue, points for driving offenses remain on the offender's license for up to 11 years. This will unnecessarily increase the offender's insurance rates for a time frame that is incongruent with the degree of the offense.

We, the undersigned, demand the immediate repeal of these "civil remedial fees." We will not vote for any state Delegate or State Senator who voted for this bill, or for any Delegate or Senator who does not take action to repeal the sections of House Bill 3202 that inflict these exorbitant and unjust penalties.
 
Originally posted by: slsmnaz
Originally posted by: rdubbz420
Originally posted by: Hammerhead
just realized that a VA zip code is needed. well, if you out of state, thanks for the moral support.

they can use mine😉
20191
and the rest.
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and you wonder why this will not be taken seriously

yeah cause the other 30'000 live out of state.:roll:
 
An online petition with 50,000 "signatures" won't have as much impact as 5,000 individual letters sent by residents to their state representative and state senator. When letters and phone calls start pouring in, you'll see change. That's what scares the politicians.

There are some things (like buying beef) that aren't effectively done online.
 
Originally posted by: kranky
An online petition with 50,000 "signatures" won't have as much impact as 5,000 individual letters sent by residents to their state representative and state senator. When letters and phone calls start pouring in, you'll see change. That's what scares the politicians.

There are some things (like buying beef) that aren't effectively done online.

Like bulf beef? Alternator sized?
 
I agree this petition probably will not amount to anything, but it can't hurt to try. Signed. I live in VA and these fines are ridiculous.
 
Wow. I didn't know about this and I live in the Richmond area. I don't drive, but my brother is a pretty fast driver. Better to tell him about this.
 
Originally posted by: kranky
An online petition with 50,000 "signatures" won't have as much impact as 5,000 individual letters sent by residents to their state representative and state senator. When letters and phone calls start pouring in, you'll see change. That's what scares the politicians.

There are some things (like buying beef) that aren't effectively done online.

Yup. You need to call and write your state representative. That's the only way.
 
online petitions are worthless

if you really care, call/visit the lawmaker that you voted for/against/that represents you that has jurisdication over the thing you don't like
 
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