ATi's R400 delayed until Summer '04??

[Lizardman]

Originally posted by: SickBeast
it's about time videocards lasted longer than 6 months.

I dont know about you but mine usually last for about 2 or 3 years before I upgrade. Just becuase a new one comes out doesnt mean its the best for you and you have to buy it.

 

[bluemax]

Originally posted by: apoppin
Dang . . . I wonder what percentage of GH AT'ers are married . . . I can't tell cause there isn't a "depressed" or "whipped" icon.

[sheepishly raises hand, looking around nervously...]
All joking aside, I wouldn't trade her for anything - she's even stood by me during this long stint of 95% unemployment (!@#$ IT sector!)
And hey... there's some things a computer just can't give you.

[insert floppy disk into drive A: and press any key when ready] *doot*
[formatting...] *grind*grind*grind* AUUUUUUUAAAAAAGHHHHH!!!! Cancel! CANCELLLLLL!!!

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: Lizardman

Originally posted by: SickBeast
it's about time videocards lasted longer than 6 months.

I dont know about you but mine usually last for about 2 or 3 years before I upgrade. Just becuase a new one comes out doesnt mean its the best for you and you have to buy it.

True. It's just that things are more tempting when something revolutionary comes out every 6 months.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Lizardman

Originally posted by: SickBeast
it's about time videocards lasted longer than 6 months.

I dont know about you but mine usually last for about 2 or 3 years before I upgrade. Just becuase a new one comes out doesnt mean its the best for you and you have to buy it.

True. It's just that things are more tempting when something revolutionary comes out every 6 months.

ACTUALLY - up-'till-now - truly "revolutionary" GPUs have been released about every 18 months - CONTRARY to what clever marketing would have you believe. Let's see - "revolutionary" ATI GPUs in the last 4 years: Rage Fury; Radeon 8500; Radeon 9700. Everything else is just "refreshes".

And now it's gonna be 24 months. Big Deal! We're just gonna have to wait longer - depending on competition - for those steep price drops . . . .

 

[bluemax]

Originally posted by: apoppin

ACTUALLY - up-'till-now - truly "revolutionary" GPUs have been released about every 18 months - CONTRARY to what clever marketing would have you believe. Let's see - "revolutionary" ATI GPUs in the last 4 years: Rage Fury; Radeon 8500; Radeon 9700. Everything else is just "refreshes".[/quote]

Not to quibble, but the Original Radeon was a very big deal! The move from Rage128 to Radeon core was a very big move and a drastic improvement. If you're going to talk revolutionary, the original Radeon DDR should be in that list!
Other than that, I agree completely. Refreshes bug me... it's no wonder average joe is completly clueless as to what's a good video card! There's no way for average joe to know that his GeForce2 Ultra is *faster* than the spanky-new MX-420 or MX-440.
(Not picking on nVidia, ATI did the same thing (mostly) with the 8500/9000 scheme.)

You know... with the 9000 being a smaller, integrated core, I was always expecting the price to really come down... it never has. It's still CHEAPER to get the faster 8500LE! :disgust:

 

[apoppin]

Actually - thanks for the "quibble" - I forgot the original Radeon 64 DDR that lasted in my rig for 18 months.

AND - my original timeline is in error . . . looks like just over a 12 month cycle . . .

RageFury (Winter 1999/00)
Radeon 64 (Winter 2000-01)
8500 (Fall 2001)
9700 (Fall 2002)

EDIT: The "reason" the 8500 is cheaper than the 9000 series is that ATI or it's partners still have a big stock of them. I don't think the 8500 sold particularly well after the GF4s were released.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Well, nVidia should concentrate on getting NV36 (value part of NV35) out the door. From what little I've seen, the Radeon 9200 is faster than the GeForceFX 5200, and the Radeon 9600 PRO vs. GeForceFX 5600 Ultra is a dead heat.

As for R400, ATi has stated that they want to double performance with each new core. I don't think they could do that on a six-month cycle.

 

[AmdInside]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: SeekingTao

Originally posted by: AmdInside
In the past, it would bother me but lately, there hasn't been many good PC games. I've been playing a lot of console games on my Xbox. I use my computer mostly for *gasp* work.

Doom III
Enter The Matrix
Tron 2?

The games are starting to roll out. Don't lose faith.

Battlefield 1942 played online ownz anything that consoles have to offer IMHO

True but I am just stating that there are a lot more good games coming out for console than PC. Who's to say those games will be any good. People had high expectations for Unreal2 but in the end was just a lot of eye candy.

Battlefield 1942 and Counter-Strike are my favorite games on a PC right now. I wonder if it is worth getting the BF 1942 expansion pack.