ATI's R350, RV350 may have already taped out .

RatDog8102

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Am I crazy or is the date of that article December 10? If the inquirer knew this to be true back then, then why haven't more reputable sources since made the same claims about the r350 being taped?
 

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Repost from December 10, 2002!

Still, not much is known about R350/RV350:


As expected, Spring will bring R350 and RV350 based products along with a slightly refreshed integrated chipset product (current P4 chipset with faster FSB/RAM support). M10, the mobile equivalent of RV350 (DX9, 4 pipes, 130nm) will be available but its launch will be dependant on customer launches.
 

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Well we know a little more when they will be released. I posted this from Beyond3D in your topic about ATI's roadmap:
"When Mr. Edinger spoke in the morning the ATI's future plans were brought to the words Next Generation. But that idyl was destroyed by the next speech of a guy from CP Technology who presented the roadmap showing R350, RV350, R400 and their approximate implementation time. When the information was displayed the Vice President was taken aback at such straightforwardness. Nevertheless, I can inform you that the R350 based cards will appear in April this year, RV350 ones will come even a little earlier. Of course, this is just a plan and it can be corrected any time. The R400 is due to be released after July."
and 3d's comments reinforce this:
Possibly of more interest though, is that it would appear that R400 sounds like its still on course for a Fall release. R400 is an entirely new architecture, which some are describing as 'hybrid' (possibly with reference to the shader pipeline's being unified in some sense) and is likely to support DirectX9's, currently unexposed, PS/VS3.0 functionality
Exciting times for graphics hardware.
 

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if the cards are out in april it better have taped out
 

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IF ATI have already got the RV350 taped out then NVIDIA wil take one hell of a blow, already they lost sales due to the R300 being out earlier than the NV30 and now we here that ATI may be bringing out at 0.13 micron chip at the same time as NVIDIA. We all know NVIDIA have had a few problems befor but for a while they have helf the top spot, could this knock them off?
 

GnomeCop

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what is the RV 350? is that the all in wonder version? Or is are there any plans at all to make an all in wonder version of the r350
 

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Originally posted by: moonshinemadness
IF ATI have already got the RV350 taped out then NVIDIA wil take one hell of a blow, already they lost sales due to the R300 being out earlier than the NV30 and now we here that ATI may be bringing out at 0.13 micron chip at the same time as NVIDIA. We all know NVIDIA have had a few problems befor but for a while they have helf the top spot, could this knock them off?

RV350 is going to be a value and mobile part only made possible by the .13 micron process, otherwise it would be unprofitable. NV31 and NV34 have also taped out already; to fill in the value line after the NV30.

Chiz
 

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Originally posted by: GnomeCop
what is the RV 350? is that the all in wonder version? Or is are there any plans at all to make an all in wonder version of the r350

oops... what the guy below me said.
 

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No. Rxxx designates a top-performance core. RVxxx designates a budget (reduced) core. R350 will definitely be better than 9700 and probably cost somewhere from $350-450 when it hits the street. RV350 will be the budget or mobile version, probably similar to R300 in architecture but with less pixel pipes or something and not quite equal in peformance. Look at R200 and RV250: R200 was first and is still better, but RV250 offers almost the same performance from ATi and can be used in mobile applications/is cheaper to manufacture from ATi's standpoint.
 

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The R350 is the R300 bigger brother and the RV350 im guessing is the R350's bigger brother. The all in wonder is R300 based with a TV Card and capture kit built on i guess there will be plans to bring out an all in wonder based on both the R350 and RV350 (correct me if im wrong on those)

Edit 1: The RV350 is the R350's Cheaper brother, sorry guys
 

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I posted this in another thread:

R400
Paper released in late July 2003, going on sale in September 2003. Will be a .13mu part.
Competition: NV35

R350 (Radeon 9x00/PRO)
Paper released in late February, going on sale in late March/early April. Will be a .15mu part.
Competition: GeForceFX 5800 Ultra

RV350 (Radeon 9x00/PRO/M10)
Paper released in late February, going on sale in late March/early April. Will be a .13mu part.
Competition: NV31/GeForce4 Ti4800/GeForceFX GO

R300 (Radeon 9700/9500/PRO)
On sale now.
Competition: GeForceFX 5800/NV34/Ti4600

RV280 (Radeon 9100/M9+)
An AGP 8x version of R200 or RV250. Has been ready to go for a while. Will be a .15mu part.
Competition: GeForce4 MX/GeForce4 GO

R200 (Radeon 8500/8500LE)
Retail sales already mostly discontinued (OEM sales continue)

RV250 (Radeon 9000/M9)
Retail sales already mostly discontinued (OEM sales continue)
 

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I'd be willing to bet that both th R350 and the RV350 have already taped out. I'm just hoping that the R350 brings something else to the table besides just a mhz bump on the core and mem.
 

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Originally posted by: jeffrey
I'd be willing to bet that both th R350 and the RV350 have already taped out. I'm just hoping that the R350 brings something else to the table besides just a mhz bump on the core and mem.

I'm not expecting much from R350 other then that. Just enough to clearly take the speed crown back until R400/NV35. Maybe some minor core revisions, but not much. RV350 will be the interesting part.
 

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Okay, Lemme be a newb for a day.

What the heck does Taped out mean?

I assume Taped = Finished revising the core, and has running silicon?

Thanks.
 

JayPatel

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engineering samples are in the hands of OEM system builders for testing. Ive got the pleasure of knowing someone who has one in their main rig right now. :D
 

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Originally posted by: JayPatel
engineering samples are in the hands of OEM system builders for testing. Ive got the pleasure of knowing someone who has one in their main rig right now. :D

Has one.. what? R350??
 

PeeluckyDuckee

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Geez Jay, when your friend is done playing with the sample and has the real thing, think you can have him pass it along to me? ;) heh
 

JayPatel

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Originally posted by: tbates757
Originally posted by: JayPatel
engineering samples are in the hands of OEM system builders for testing. Ive got the pleasure of knowing someone who has one in their main rig right now. :D

Has one.. what? R350??


Yup r350
 

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I am more interested about the mobile R300/350 core, but GF FX wont be top dog for long. IT wasnt much better than R300 and I dont think it will be able to take the R350.
 

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Originally posted by: JayPatel
Originally posted by: tbates757
Originally posted by: JayPatel
engineering samples are in the hands of OEM system builders for testing. Ive got the pleasure of knowing someone who has one in their main rig right now. :D

Has one.. what? R350??


Yup r350

Performance Estimates? Nothing too specific of course, wouldn't want to get anyone in trouble... :)

 

jeffrey

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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Originally posted by: jeffrey
I'd be willing to bet that both th R350 and the RV350 have already taped out. I'm just hoping that the R350 brings something else to the table besides just a mhz bump on the core and mem.

I'm not expecting much from R350 other then that. Just enough to clearly take the speed crown back until R400/NV35. Maybe some minor core revisions, but not much. RV350 will be the interesting part.


Linky
"ATI?s R350 graphics processor is based on the R300 architecture, but with certain optimisations that allow higher core-clock speed. According to unofficial information, the R350 VPU incorporates eight rendering pipelines with two texture units per pipeline."

This would impress me.
 

GnomeCop

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so probably no plans to make a All in wonder R350 based card or what?
haven't heard anything , just wondering.