Well, to each his own. Some people are just experienced at this sort of thing.
Right. So $400 is a decent price, and $500 (technically, they have been available for $450 already) is outrageous?:roll:
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If he's on something, I'd like to be on it too. As little chance as there is for a softmod possibility to open up, I'd still like to think it may happen in the future. I was bidding on a 9800SE on ebay this guy had, who hardmodded his card to run with 8 pipes. I got into talking to him about his card, and he said he used conductive paint to bridge the required resistors, and that it was reversible if I so wished to remove the paint. It sounded like a good alternative to softmodding to me. This is why I mention it:
Perhaps there is a reversible "hardmod" option such as this that would allow us to give our x800 pro's a turn at unlocking their pipes. Granted, this would only be viable if the solution was as simple as gapping a couple of resistors, but it would be safe(r)
Perhaps there is a reversible "hardmod" option such as this that would allow us to give our x800 pro's a turn at unlocking their pipes. Granted, this would only be viable if the solution was as simple as gapping a couple of resistors, but it would be safe(r)
what are you smoking man? to each his own?
you think some one is gonna wanna risk a $400 dollar card on a mod that may not even work then buy another card?
well the odds of the mod being successful do not look very good man.
and the mod is only half assed undoable...you either solder the two points or use conductive paint...either way it isnt worth it to try and hose a $400 dollar card on a mod that has very little chance of success.
The X800pro easily beats the 6800GT where it counts -- DX9, AA/AF, and shader intensive games.
In the hardware.fr review 8 games (with a mix of some new games NV hasn?t had a chance to cheat in yet like FIFA2004 and Collin McRae 04) ... the X800pro beat the 6800U at 16x12 - 4AA/16AF overall in those 8 games.
So the X800pro can easily handle the 6800GT at stock speeds.
chart ... ??.
The 6800U and X800pro tied in that chart but the 6800U is running a lower shader path in Farcry -- so the X800pro would have been faster than the 6800U on even terms ?..(8 games ??.. UT3,Farcry, Tomb Raider, Splinter Cell, Il-2 FB, Warcraft III, Collin McRae 04, FIFA 2004)
In the hardware.fr review 8 games (with a mix of some new games NV hasn?t had a chance to cheat in yet like FIFA2004 and Collin McRae 04) ... the X800pro beat the 6800U at 16x12 - 4AA/16AF overall in those 8 games.
So the X800pro can easily handle the 6800GT at stock speeds.
chart ... ??.
The 6800U and X800pro tied in that chart but the 6800U is running a lower shader path in Farcry -- so the X800pro would have been faster than the 6800U on even terms ?..(8 games ??.. UT3,Farcry, Tomb Raider, Splinter Cell, Il-2 FB, Warcraft III, Collin McRae 04, FIFA 2004)
At stock speeds yes. But what are stock speeds? Like 200Mhz faster for the X800?
GTs should overclock to 400 without much of a problem and possibly 425 with a little work. That will pretty much end the performance advantage in a few select games.
GTs should overclock to 400 without much of a problem and possibly 425 with a little work. That will pretty much end the performance advantage in a few select games.
Another question for both cards is what type of power supply and cooling will be needed to achieve these overclocks? For those of us who like silence.... unless water cooling is an option.
I haven't read the thread, but are you suggesting ATI's answer to the GT is that you buy a Pro, for the same price, and void your warranty and possibly ruin your card to equal the GT? Seems like a poor answer.
ATi's answer is that you buy an X800Pro, for the same price, with the same performance.
And if you wish, you can make it up to an X800XT for even more performance.
I think you have it a little mixed up man.
Their answer is buy the pro leave it the hell alone and have some pretty good performance. NOT buy a pro mod it void your warranty fry the card, RMA it then screw others out.....which we all know is going to happon to those idiots who hose their card.
Did you read this linked thread?
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?threadid=17229767&perpage=40&pagenumber=5
Supposedly, 3/3 mods have worked. It looks like ATI is having excellent yields, this looks very good for the XT. I'm guessing they are waiting on memory supply.
overclocking and modding can tend to be a sport. Price is not the issue, as best oc wins! Anyways if a hard mod fails - not likely to hear about it, where if one works out great - happens to be mentioned on a regular basis if not in the tag line. Funny enough these great mods and overclocks do convince others (who won't oc for fear of losing their warranty) to buy that card. :moon:
isn't hte XT clocked higher than a pro right? Just adding the 4 pipes would probably just make the Pro equal to the GT. The GT appears to be an underclocked Ultra, but has all the pipes and whatnot. According to Anand's benchmarks, the GT is faster than the Pro in most things. Well, I think thats what I remember...don't feel like looking it up. This seems like a fairly risky mod to do on a $399 card. Why not just spend the extra $100 bucks?
No, the GT and the Pro are more or less equal cards. A modded Pro is significantly better than a GT.
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