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ati xpress 200 chipst+nvidia card=nightmare

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riju

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i am writing to this forum in search of some help which i need badly

first of all let me give my specs:

MSI RS 480 M2-IL(ati xpress 200 chipset)
AMD 64 3000+
XFX GEFORCE 6600 GT PCI-E
40 GB SAMSUNG HDD
640 MB DDR 400 RAM
400 WATT I-BALL PSU(12 V-17 A)

Now my problem is this:
for the last 4-5 months many games some new ,some old have started freezing. the sound loops on for a few secs, then either the computer restarts giving a BSOD or recovers to get frozen again after a short while.

this happens in many games which are not that graphics intensive(compared to the 6600 gt)

heres wat i have done so far to resolve the problem but to no avail

1)tried various nvidia drivers
2)tried various tweaks n bios settings
3)tried to reduce the clock frequency of the RAM to 266 Mhz
4)Overclocked,underclocked n kept the card at stock settings
5)bios flashing
6)Installed WINDOWS XP SP2 several times
7)Used DRIVER CLEANER PRO to remove any ATI display driver present on the board
8)Ram MEMTEST to check the RAM. the test said they were fine.

mine is not a monster rig but a decent rig which should run the modern games smoothly. so i am very upset rite now. Buying another Videocard(radeon) is out of the question rite now( i am a student)
Now i seriously think that after all the ATI chipset is not compatible with the NVIDIA GFX card(which wasnt mentioned anywhere)

so any help pls on this matter??
pls pls help me.
waiting for ur suggestions eagerly
thank you.
 
Tried googling the BSOD yet? They can sometimes point right to the culprit. The PSU is questionable too, 17A +12v is fairly weak for your setup, have you checked what the rails read and wether they fluctuate much under load?
 
Psu may be a factor but then again it would have affected all the games that i play.
However in some of the most graphics intensive games (like QUAKE 4,DOOM 3,FARCRY,F.E.A.R) i havent noticed this kind of freezing n the gameplay was very smooth.That makes me think its not a power related problem.
 
ok then if i opt for a new psu what should be its specs for my system? N which brand should i opt for?
 
Would defnietly look into a new PSU... my 380W has 28A on the 12V... running similar specs (or rather I was before my recent upgrade) usually, it is good to find a PSU with more than 25A on the 12V
 
update:I recently found out what the error message was.ok,it ran something like this:

"the display driver was stuck in an infinite loop"

so u guys still think its a power issue?
 
Originally posted by: riju
update:I recently found out what the error message was.ok,it ran something like this:

"the display driver was stuck in an infinite loop"

so u guys still think its a power issue?
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Video card driver problem, could be brought about by poor PSU maybe.

 
That why I getting a NV board with my new PCI-e NV card.

I had similar problems with a ATI card in a NV board.
Make sure the on board video is is disabled in the BOIS.
Make sure you uninstall everything that has to with the ATI video in windows.

Also you list 640MB of memory. Maybe the memory chips are not matched good.
Also if it list 640 memory but you have 1 GB then your video is using memory and that means it not disabled.
 
thx for the reply.

anyway i have a 512 MB memory stick and a 128 MB one.And i have disabled onboard video from bios and have removed any trace of ATI video drivers using dc pro.

and yes i have tried as many as 7 drivers starting from the 60 series ,70 series and now the 81.95 official one.
 
I've used nvidia board with ATI card and ATI mobo with nvidia card without any problem. Manufacturer would shoot itself in the foot by making their product not compatible and not compliant with AGP and PCIe specs.. If nv card were made to run with nv motherboard, and ATi with ATI, what would happen with Intel, SIS, ULI, VIA chipset and those video card???


This is either a PSU problem, maybe RAM (is it a 939 dual channel or 754 single channel), but definitively not a chipset compatibility problem.
 
Don't think its chipset problem as much as drive and Bois problem.
On boerd video means 2 different video drives and I know that ATI and NV drive do like to be on the same machine. My only guess.
 
Originally posted by: grooge
I've used nvidia board with ATI card and ATI mobo with nvidia card without any problem. Manufacturer would shoot itself in the foot by making their product not compatible and not compliant with AGP and PCIe specs....This is either a PSU problem, maybe RAM (is it a 939 dual channel or 754 single channel), but definitively not a chipset compatibility problem.
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I have used ATI/nVidia together as well with no problems and concur it is almost certainly not a chipset/video card compatibility issue. The people here and here seem to think its the PSU, so unless you have time to burn installing drivers and fiddling with RAM try a new PSU already and be done with it. Cut corners and save money on your CPU, your video, your sound, even your mobo, but never ever ever cut corners on the power supply or RAM. Not saying you need top o' the line most expensive, I think the $40 USD Fortron recommendation earlier by t3h l337 n3wb was an excellent one, but I am not sure what may be available to you without international shipping hassles. A surprisingly good rule of thumb to PSU quality is weight, the heavier the better, more/bigger heatsinks and capacitors. But you have to know what you need power-wise and wade though the manufacturer marketing BS to see if that matches your needs. A favorite trick of some manufacturers is to advertize a certain output, but in the fine print they will say 400W @ 25° C / 77° F, meaning at anything more than room temperature it will be putting out less than 400W, and the harder it works the hotter it gets the less it puts out, which means it will worker even harder and get even hotter and put out less, and so on until the PSU just dies one day. That sounds like what is happening to your I-Ball, though I Googled I-Ball to find the specs and the top listing for it is this post! By contrast, PC Power & Cooling states an operating temperature of 50° C as do many Enermax, Antec, Seasonic, or Fortron PSUs, meaning they can put out even more than their rated power in a well ventilated case. As someone mentioned, make sure you have sufficient amps on the 12v rails, and if you are going to buy a quality PSU I always say buy a little more than you need because a good one will last you through several CPU/Mobo upgrade cycles and you may want the juice to add more drives/fans/lights/whatever someday. Good luck!

 
first of all thx for ur replies.

Here( i mean in india)the dealers are almost reluctant to sell a quality PSU.
they will give u good cpu,ram ,mobo etc but when it comes to psu they,for some unknown reason,tries to sell u a cheap one. for instance when i had a 300 watt psu i went to a shop and asked for a 450 watt one.The first question the dealer asked "what the hell will u do with a 450 watt one"?

anyway i will try to find a good power supply given such adverse conditions(lol).

i am still not ruling out the incompatibility factor though.
I posted a similar thread in the MSI forum and there one reader even went to the extent of saying that he had the same prob and after he had contacted MSI they acknowledged it and offered to replace the old one with the new RS 482 model which they say is free of any problem of this type.

i have mailed MSI and currently waiting for their reply.Hope they arrange for a RMA.

I will try to keep u guys updated.
 
My mother has this board too. I combined it with my BFG 6600 GT or Leadtek 7800GTX (lastest Nvidia driver 81.95) without a problem. It seems ATI chipset is very stable compared to Nforce4, but it runs slower due to not dual Memory bandwith.

I noticed that you need to update ATI chipset from their website first, then update Nvidia driver later.

Except all this, maybe your motherboard has problem..need to RMA. Besides, virus, rootkit and CD game protections always are big problems too. Hope so you solve out yours.
 
exact same problem with steam/counter strike source but not with anyother game,
I have a ecs rs400-a rev 1.1 bios and a geforce 6800 gs pci-e card steam admins tell me its my ati chipset on the mobo comflicting wqith my gf card , but when i install my gf 5700 le agp card [ my mobo is backwards compatible] it does the same and that card is compatible...i personally think its faulty software since cs is notorious for that, and my problems started after the sept update...so looks like on top of the new cpu/memory/soundcard/cables/hd i bought ill have to buy a new mobo to make steam work..

and i also took steams advice to buy a good psu so i bought a antec true power server psu with dual 12v rails for pci-e 550 watt and it did the same thing right off the bat...

my problems are within anywhere from 5 to 15 minutes of play my game freezes with a continous looping sound and it either totally crashes my pc or reverts back to my desktop.. i also noticed when this happens hl2.exe are using 50% of my cpu resources and roughly 350 to 450 megs of ram
 
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