Right now lookin at buying a single video card and have no plans of going SLI later on, I am trying to decide between the X1800XT and the 7800GTX, I already have COD2, so that is a nonfactor for me. I just am wondering what will get more performance. Both are priced similarly. I can get either for about 480-500 bucks from my wholesaler, what you guys recommend? I just got a new opteron 170, but its no use until I can get a PCI Express video card! I need to get this soon.
ATI X1800XT512 or Nvidia 7800GTX256
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Cookie Monster
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What games are you playing? Whats the actual price difference? For what i know a GTX can be bought for 450ish.
Generally, the (stock) X1800XT seems to beat out the (stock) 7800GTX 256MB in most benchmarks, but not by a huge amount. It's almost dead even with one of the factory-OCed 7800GTXes.
I haven't seen benchmark numbers on the new 700/800 X1800XTs, but I imagine it would be ahead of anything but a 7800GTX"Ultra" 512MB or a heavily OCed 7800GTX 256MB.
I haven't seen benchmark numbers on the new 700/800 X1800XTs, but I imagine it would be ahead of anything but a 7800GTX"Ultra" 512MB or a heavily OCed 7800GTX 256MB.
Capt Caveman
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OP - what kind of resolutions do you plan to run games at? Is IQ important to you? From what I've read, the X1800XT provides a slightly better IQ experience.
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That's about right. The ATI card seems better at the older DirectX 9.0 games but can struggle with OpenGL (Quake4) and SM3.0 games (AOE3). The GTX has a nice single slot design that runs cooler and quieter than the XT, however the XT does have 512MB of memory which can be a factor for certain games like BF2.
EVGA video cards now come with Quake4 instead of COD2.
Either for the same price? Survey says take the 512MB card.
But surely you can find a GTX256 for far less elsewhere, in which case you've got some benchmarks and threads to glance over.
Edit - Huh, apparently GTX256s are more than I thought. If the extra fan noise won't bother you, I'd probably recommend the XT for the extra ~$50 (vs. the cheapest new GTX256 I see at NewEgg). It's at the very least competitive with the GTX on most fronts, plus it offers twice the RAM, HDR + AA, and a chance (courtesy of faster branching performance) to perform faster on future pixel-shader-heavy titles.
But surely you can find a GTX256 for far less elsewhere, in which case you've got some benchmarks and threads to glance over.
Edit - Huh, apparently GTX256s are more than I thought. If the extra fan noise won't bother you, I'd probably recommend the XT for the extra ~$50 (vs. the cheapest new GTX256 I see at NewEgg). It's at the very least competitive with the GTX on most fronts, plus it offers twice the RAM, HDR + AA, and a chance (courtesy of faster branching performance) to perform faster on future pixel-shader-heavy titles.
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The X1800XT has excellent Quake 4 performance.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/games-2005_15.html
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/games-2005_15.html
The X1800XT is faster than a 7800GTX -256.
IAnd if you run the GTX in HQ mode you?ll take a performance hit over what you see in the benches on almost all web sites because they only bench the cards in the default Q mode. The X1800XT will then be quit a bit faster.
IAnd if you run the GTX in HQ mode you?ll take a performance hit over what you see in the benches on almost all web sites because they only bench the cards in the default Q mode. The X1800XT will then be quit a bit faster.
x1800XT
More RAM
better SM3 (flow control, branching, etc)
better IQ + AF (angle independant), less hit on framerate
better AA (6x for the cost of 4x)
HDR+AA
Generally faster then the GTX and no shimmering
More RAM
better SM3 (flow control, branching, etc)
better IQ + AF (angle independant), less hit on framerate
better AA (6x for the cost of 4x)
HDR+AA
Generally faster then the GTX and no shimmering
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/games-2005.html
Decide for yourself. Unless you'll be playing AOE III often, the x1800xt is a clear winner in the lastest games with eye candy turned up. Also the performance hit between 4xAA and 6xAA is minimal as is the performance hit from regual AF to HQ AF.
Decide for yourself. Unless you'll be playing AOE III often, the x1800xt is a clear winner in the lastest games with eye candy turned up. Also the performance hit between 4xAA and 6xAA is minimal as is the performance hit from regual AF to HQ AF.
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Having owned both, if the price was the same I would go with the X1800XT. Overall, as a single card it is a bit better than the GTX 256. Honestly though, both the cards are awesome.
the X1800XT........it has something special coming in the next few weeks.
apparently.......maybee............maybe next year........
I'm talking about the promised video performance quality and encoding package.
the image quality is better in 3D.
the dynamic branching should come in usefull with more and more SM3.0 support and utilisation.
the soon free overclock of 700/800 (700/1600).
does not take much of a performance hit with AA.
apparently.......maybee............maybe next year........
I'm talking about the promised video performance quality and encoding package.
the image quality is better in 3D.
the dynamic branching should come in usefull with more and more SM3.0 support and utilisation.
the soon free overclock of 700/800 (700/1600).
does not take much of a performance hit with AA.
Struggle at Q4? Do they really?
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/games-2005_15.html
16x12 4x16x........XT:95fps.......256gtx:81fps
What about SM3 games like SS2?
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/games-2005_18.html
16x12 4x16x.......XT:34fps.........256gtx:23fps
Nice try, though, with the generalizations and all...
nitromullet
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Well, to be fair you can't cherrypick like that. The XT does get it's ass handed to it by the GTX 256 in AOE3.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/games-2005_15.html
16x12 4x16x.......XT:24.5fps.........256gtx:36.3fp
Edit: although it does beat the GTX 256 at every other benchmark @ 1600x1200 4xAA/16xAF
Between the two I'd probably go for the X1800XT, While I perfer Nvidia drivers, for the single card crown between these two cards goes to the XT.
I'm playing COD2, Half-life2, and FEAR at the moment.
Wow guys, thanks for the replies, I'm getting the X1800XT from a local parts distributor for 489, its the ATI by sapphire, thanks for the input. That pricepoint pegs it directly with nVidia. I haven't had an nVidia card since the Geforce2. Since the GTX512 is nowhere in stock, and people are paying way over MSRP i guess people are buying these ATi cards instead.
Wow guys, thanks for the replies, I'm getting the X1800XT from a local parts distributor for 489, its the ATI by sapphire, thanks for the input. That pricepoint pegs it directly with nVidia. I haven't had an nVidia card since the Geforce2. Since the GTX512 is nowhere in stock, and people are paying way over MSRP i guess people are buying these ATi cards instead.
My 9700pro AIW was $400 dollars when it was top of the line and that was considered expensive. Consumers lost.
Originally posted by: nts
x1800XT
More RAM
better SM3 (flow control, branching, etc)
better IQ + AF (angle independant), less hit on framerate
better AA (6x for the cost of 4x)
HDR+AA
Generally faster then the GTX and no shimmering
[/qMy reommendation too. X1800XT
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