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ATI, winner of most BSOD's and corrupt installs compared to comp

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tweakboy

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I feel sad when I come on the video card area, cuz I see soo many people with ATI problems,

nVidia is much less.


You think they can make drivers by now, ATI is horrible drivers IMO catalyst is junk,, I Suffered for 4 years with the ATI x800 and had issue after issue.
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I don't know who these people are who have all these driver issues. I have never had driver issues with Nvidia or ATI.
 
nvidia drivers killed my dog fluffy 🙁

I've had a 4870 since July 2008 without any driver problems.

Before that I had nv 7900, 6800, 5900, 4200, gf3, gf2 without any driver problems.

My guess is PEBKAC.
 
Which would you rather have, the occasional bad driver that BSODs or is all around unstable, or a driver there literally fries your graphics card?
 
Notice his current system is overclocked, the old one with ATI card was probably not a stable overclock:

> DAW Core 2 Q6600 GO @ 3760Mhz @ 1.496v 0.0 vdrop
> ASUS P5K @ 1880 Mhz FSB @1.7v Pencil Voltmod 470x8
> G.SKILL PC8000 8GB 2GBx4 @ 940 Mhz@55ns
> EVGA 8800 GT SC @740/1800/1065 Mhz@1.1v

You shouldn't blame the drivers if you have problems while running everything out of spec.
 
If I recall correctly, Microsoft published a report showing that nVidia drivers were the number one source of BSOD's in Vista a couple years ago. Not once have I seen any objective data that showed ATI having the same amount of stability issues as nVidia, yet we continue to get the same couple of posters posting these so called ATI stability issues. I don't quite get it.
 
Martimus said:
If I recall correctly, Microsoft published a report showing that nVidia drivers were the number one source of BSOD's in Vista a couple years ago. Not once have I seen any objective data that showed ATI having the same amount of stability issues as nVidia, yet we continue to get the same couple of posters posting these so called ATI stability issues. I don't quite get it.
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The time line was:
Vista and the G80 were released the same day. 6 months later ATI released their first DX10 card.
So for the first 6 months of vista nvidia was the only one with DX10. DX10 originally had some bugs in it, which (surprise surprise!) caused crashing. MS tried to blame the whole thing on nvidia of course.
Also, nVidia had much more market share at the time (and the figure did not account for the percentage of people who actually owned nvidia vs ATI cards).

ATI did have HORRID drivers which I wouldn't use even if I was paid to... when AMD purchased ATI they have vastly improved the focus on drivers. Serious and persistent bugs that have been around and well known for years were finally fixed. Within months of the takeover several bugs that caused driver or OS files corruption during install were fixed, as well as many others.

Overall I would say that nVidia still has better drivers, especially for linux. But nvidia's drivers are now suffering from their stupid DRM schemes.
1. nVidia driver DRM disables physX if an ATI GPU is detected (even an IGP)
2. nVidia driver DRM disables SLI (multi card SLI that is) if the motherboard does not contain encrypted keys which prove that the mobo maker is paying nvidia 5$ per board
3. To combat cracked drivers that remove the above DRM, nvidia began introducing extra checks and game specific game breaking mechanisms if you fail said checks, such as reversing the gravity in one game for example...

Meanwhile AMD decided to release the specs needed to create an open source driver, its still got a long way to go but it is a reality.

Also, AMD has superior hardware this gen, being 6 months earlier to the market, and superior hardware (especially in terms of power efficiency).

All that though doesn't change that for the entirety of its existence as an independent company ATI had really poor drivers compared to nVidia. And that today (where ATI is a subsidiary of AMD) it is still somewhat behind nVidia on the driver front. (but it is certainly tolerable today)
 
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Keep in on topic and enough amusement at the OPs expense.
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I have computers with both nVidia and ATI cards. No problems with either one.

The only problem I've had in recent years was a particular set of nVidia mobile drivers that caused artifacts on my 9650M GT. Rolling back to a previous driver fixed that.
 
I will admit I found the ati drivers mildly less appealing than nvidia. However the 10.6s work really well for me. I have not had any driver not respondings that I use to get on my 8800gts. I also found myself rolling back periodically with nvidia because they would make one game better at the expense of something else. Either seems fine now. Though I still mildly prefer Nvidias I have not noted significant problems with ati especially in newer games.
 
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Keep in on topic and enough amusement at the OPs expense.
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How can this stay on topic?

The OP doesnt have an ATI card.
The OP doesnt have any problems he wants to address.
The OP is just trolling.

This thread should have been locked straight away.
 
Apologies folks, I missed that little tidbit.
Tweakboy, please don't start threads like this again if it doesn't really pertain to a current situation you're having. You're sig currently shows you using a 8800GT. And you used an X800 way back when?

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