ATI Tool not picking up my 8800GT?

[Elcs]

Hi guys,

After deciding that I wanted to take my BFG 8800 GT OC up to OC2 levels, I downloaded ATI Tool. Launched it and automatically, it should have detected my graphics card and clock speeds. It knows I have an 8800GT but it picks up my default clocks as 0/0.

Trying to set any other clock results in this resetting to 0/0. Heatup tests work fine but do not remedy this situation. I am rather at a loss.

NTune picks up my clock speeds fine and will allow me to overclock. Ntune also picks up my GPU temperature to be approximately 8-10C over what Everest and ATI Tool tell me its temperatures are. Any idea which one is right?

I am using an MSI K9N Neo V3 motherboard with the latest NForce Drivers for the NForce 560 chipset and also the 169.12 Beta Drivers for my 8800GT.

Strangely enough, Windows Vista thinks my Realtek networking drivers are out of date and has given me the option to download new ones.

Any ideas? I am rather lost and just a little confused!!!

 

[Mech0z]

ATI tools = ATi cards?`You have a Nvidia card, unless I have misunderstood something you need some other software. Think http://www.guru3d.com/index.php?page=rivatuner is the Nvidia counterpart but I am not 100 %

 

[Elcs]

Originally posted by: Mech0z
ATI tools = ATi cards?`You have a Nvidia card, unless I have misunderstood something you need some other software. Think http://www.guru3d.com/index.php?page=rivatuner is the Nvidia counterpart but I am not 100 %

ATI Tool is used extensively in the Overclocked 8800GT thread and I have used ATI Tool for Nvidia cards in the past.

Thank you for your assistance.

 

[John]

Use RivaTuner 2.06 to overclock and adjust the fan on the 8800GT, then use ATITool for the artifact test only.

Guide: http://www.vaguesoft.com/users.../tutorials/rivatuner2/

 

[wildstrike1516]

Well ATI tool isn't picking up my 3870 so don't feel bad. I can't even get 3dMark06 to work with my card. It constantly locks up the program when I try to boot it.

 

[Capt Caveman]

ATI Tool has not been updated to detect these newest cards. It will detect temps.

 

[Elcs]

What temperature monitor would you believe? Nvidias NTune? or ATi Tool/Everest?

With a moderate overclock in my warm room, NTune showed my GPU Core creeping into the 90C's whereas Everest started breaking a sweat at 78C.

 

[zorrt]

stuff atitool! HATE IT! For some reason I got lazy and decided to use that to overclock my 8800gt. Started at 600, 1/2 second later jumped to 650, 700, 750 and there went my computer. Didnt kill anything tho (I hope anyways).

 

[n7]

Going to have to recommend Rivatuner.

 

[Elcs]

Bump - Just running ATI Tool, 20 minutes in and NTune picks my temps up at 96C!!!!! Everest reports my GPU to be at 82C.

If NTune is right, I am extremely alarmed. This is stock speeds in a cool room and the fan at the highest inaudible over the rest of my case (46%) setting.

Any thoughts?

 

[TC91]

check out the monitoring section in rivatuner for the gpu temps, i trust those readings more than any other. ntune hasnt really been a great piece of software anyways.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: Elcs
Bump - Just running ATI Tool, 20 minutes in and NTune picks my temps up at 96C!!!!! Everest reports my GPU to be at 82C.

If NTune is right, I am extremely alarmed. This is stock speeds in a cool room and the fan at the highest inaudible over the rest of my case (46%) setting.

Any thoughts?

check your thermal grease and HSF seating

 

[Elcs]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: Elcs
Bump - Just running ATI Tool, 20 minutes in and NTune picks my temps up at 96C!!!!! Everest reports my GPU to be at 82C.

If NTune is right, I am extremely alarmed. This is stock speeds in a cool room and the fan at the highest inaudible over the rest of my case (46%) setting.

Any thoughts?

check your thermal grease and HSF seating

On a stock card? Beyond opening the box and putting the card in, there has been no modification to it.

I am idling at just under 60C.

This kind of load temperature concerns me greatly. At 46% fan speed and absolutely maxxing Hellgate London out at 1920x1080 DX10 mode, it was unplayable but I couldnt make it break 90C even after hours of gaming.

Is ATI Tool a real nasty one for pushing a card to it maximum? My CPU hit 52C when running this which isnt alarming to me.

For the first time Ive had to be concerned about temperatures. Back in the T'Bred B overclocking days, even at 1.75V and 2.2ghz, my T'Bred B never broke a sweat and with a Zalman VF700Cu sitting on my Radeon 9800Pro, I never worried.

EDIT: Sorry, RivaTuner confirms what NTune is picking up. Idle just under 60C and hitting 95ish under load after 20 minutes of ATI Tool

 

[error8]

Do like I did: reseat the heatsink using arctic sylver 5, and your temperature will drop a bit. After that, whenever you run your card in intensive 3d mode set the fan with riva tuner at 65%. With this, and a blowing fan directed towards my card, I have 53 in idle and 73 in full load at 680/1650/2000 mhz.
It could also help to take out that stupid plastic over the heatsink, but I couldn't take it off no matter what:|

 

[taltamir]

oh yes, void your warranty on your brand new card by resetting the heat sink with better thermal paste... makes perfect sense.

The way I see it it is a blessing... if the card dies on you there is warranty replacement, and they will end up giving you a better card most likely (since the chances of having the same card in stock are slim).

Until then enjoy the year of gaming

 

[error8]

If you are to scared to do it, then don't. If you want better temperatures, this is one way of getting them. I've done some terrible things to my video cards and CPU's along time and haven't lost my warranty. Who will ever know that I reseated the heatsink of my card, if I didn't broke anything in the process?

 

[Elcs]

Originally posted by: error8
If you are to scared to do it, then don't. If you want better temperatures, this is one way of getting them. I've done some terrible things to my video cards and CPU's along time and haven't lost my warranty. Who will ever know that I reseated the heatsink of my card, if I didn't broke anything in the process?

What company applies AS5 to their cards?

I have used Aftermarket solutions on graphics cards before. I am not in a position to waste $60 (£30) on a Zalman heatsink to lower my temperatures, nor am I willing to void my warranty by reseating my heatsink.

If you remove the heatsink, you void your warranty. Any claim you make on goods which eventually become damaged and you have removed the heatsink, is fraudulent in nature unless you explicitly mention that you have done so.

Getting back onto topic:

Should I be alarmed at this temperature? Noise-wise, I cannot increase the fan speed without the annoying fan whir.

I may contact BFG and see what temperatures I can safely run at on a constant basis and advise them of my situation. A 30-40C increase in temperatures going from idle to full load in a reasonably cool case is a little crazy. I may suspend an 80mm Panaflo L1A I have lying around and direct it towards the card and see what happens. At 5-7V, this should be silent.

 

[error8]

Before reseting my heatsink and turning up the fan, the card used to hit 86C and I have a Gigabyte model. I really don't think that your temperature is dangerous. These 8800 GT's are made to run hot and if you don't break 100C then it should be fine. Then again, at 90 C the lifespan of the card doesn't seem to be very long, but who keeps a video card in their computer more than 3 years right?

 

[Lasher13]

Well the new version is out if anybody comes across this thread like I did than go here http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=725 it will most likely solve your problem, but for the newer video cards I don't know what to tell you. Sorry about reviving this thread, but I had just downloaded an older version Ati tool and couldn't find out the problem of why it wouldn't run until I found this thread.

Searched this on google "ATI tool isn't used by windows" and this thread comes up the 10th website down on the list.

Welcome to the AT Forums. For future reference, please don't resurrect dead threads without first showing proof of a Class C Necromancer license.

-ViRGE

 

[error8]

The new version you posted a link for, is from 22007-06-26. So it's not new at all.

 

[krnmastersgt]

Originally posted by: taltamir
oh yes, void your warranty on your brand new card by resetting the heat sink with better thermal paste... makes perfect sense.

The way I see it it is a blessing... if the card dies on you there is warranty replacement, and they will end up giving you a better card most likely (since the chances of having the same card in stock are slim).

Until then enjoy the year of gaming

Unless you got it from EVGA, then just send it back after you've effectively killed it and get a replacement I forgot XFX's stance, I think they don't cover any physical modifications of their products in the warranties but I might be wrong. *goes to check his warranty info*

 

[Elcs]

Originally posted by: Lasher13
Well the new version is out if anybody comes across this thread like I did than go here http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=725 it will most likely solve your problem, but for the newer video cards I don't know what to tell you. Sorry about reviving this thread, but I had just downloaded an older version Ati tool and couldn't find out the problem of why it wouldn't run until I found this thread.

Searched this on google "ATI tool isn't used by windows" and this thread comes up the 10th website down on the list.

Talk about thread necromancy.

I thought this was dead and buried. I dont have my 8800GT anymore, my dad does