You mean decrease? I'm pretty sure the PS2 sold more than the Xb and GC combined, and--barring some serious h/w problems or an internet gaming fumble on Sony's end--I don't think that'll change too much this gen. I do expect Xb360 to increase it's share of the market, though.
Wrong. Xbox was a lot closer in sales to the PS2 than everyone seems to think. And personally, I think ATI is going to regain a lot of market share with the introduction of MVP. It's so much more flexible than SLI, and I think it's going to be a really strong seller for ATI.
Malak
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They are only about a million units apart. Considering the PS2 came out first, that makes sense. This time the Xbox may come out first, which means we'll see who comes out on top.
And with MVP coming out, we'll see an increase in sales. I still think it's impractical, but whatever.
The NYT's article on the Xbox360 said PS2 has 80M in worldwide sales vs. 20M for Xbox. That doesn't seem very cloes to me....
No, that's about right, and I've looked into the numbers quite a bit.
Nonetheless, next generation is a whole new ballgame, and the 80M/20M numbers certainly aren't an indication of what's to come - it is seriously doubtful that Sony will outsell Microsoft 4:1 next generation.
Sony had quite a few reasons for selling so many consoles this generation:
-launching two years earlier than the Xbox and 1 year earlier than the Gamecube
-a relatively high defect rate
-releasing several major revisions of the console, prompting some users to upgrade (particularly with the latest SCPH 7xxxxx generation - the "slim" PS2)
-a better (IMO) software lineup, especially for that first year or so where the Xbox basically had Halo and a bunch of PC ports
This generation is completely different. Microsoft is now an established brand name in the console market, they are first to the table, they have a powerful, flexible console lined up with much stronger developer support out of the gate than they had last generation and a very interesting, updated "Xbox Live" online strategy, as well as HDTV compatibility (720p and DD 5.1 as a minimum - FINALLY!).
I have no doubts that Sony will be #1 once again next generation, and the PS3 should be quite the system with a Cell CPU and 25/50GB BlueRay discs. Nevertheless, competition from Microsoft will come hard and early, as opposed to last generation where the Xbox was the Johnny-come-lately. I think a more realistic ratio for next genration would be 2:1 in favour of Sony. Only time will tell.
I had the opposite (amazingly). My PS1 was one of the junkers that needed to be flipped upside down to work, then that wasn't good enough - I had to find a bizarre angle (about 75 degrees from horizontal) to take just enough load off the lens to work.
My PS1 was bought within a year of the playstation launch, while I got the PS2 a safe 2 years or so after launch.
I had a PS2 that worked fine for everything (CD/DVD games, DVD movies, etc) for about 3 years. I sold it and bought a slim PS2 about 4 months after the slim ones came out. They're so much smaller - it's crazy!
All my friends with launch PS2's have nothing but problems though. A buddy of mine has had a dead PS2 for like 2 years and refused to buy another one.
You guys are right, the numbers should be more even b/w the PS3 and Xb2 (maybe most of all b/c of internet play and Xbox Live's being out in front in that field). Sadly, I'm getting the feeling Revolution may place third again, but as long as Ninty is profitable, that's cool.
I have a launch-day PS1 that has the upside-down defect. It's due to Sony being cheap bastards/crafty bastards/bad engineers and making the laser ride on a plastic rail, which simply wears down over time. There's a homebrew fix that involves taking the PS1 apart, filing down the rail, and gluing a thin piece of metal (floppy disk cover) in its place. I don't trust Sony optical drives due to my experience with them (PS1, Sony boombox whose CD reader failed, Sony VAIO whose CD-ROM drive failed), and Bluray in the PS3 makes me even more suspicious.
I didn't think they'd pad their numbers with defective consoles, though. At least I hope there aren't *that* many that it'd affect their apparent 4:1 ratio.
I have a launch-day PS1 that has the upside-down defect. It's due to Sony being cheap bastards/crafty bastards/bad engineers and making the laser ride on a plastic rail, which simply wears down over time. There's a homebrew fix that involves taking the PS1 apart, filing down the rail, and gluing a thin piece of metal (floppy disk cover) in its place. I don't trust Sony optical drives due to my experience with them (PS1, Sony boombox whose CD reader failed, Sony VAIO whose CD-ROM drive failed), and Bluray in the PS3 makes me even more suspicious.
I didn't think they'd pad their numbers with defective consoles, though. At least I hope there aren't *that* many that it'd affect their apparent 4:1 ratio.
At least 750,000 have SLI motherboards.
And on the sales debate, the XBox has been closing in on the PS2 recently (although it might be US only).In the US, sales numbers are quite similar between the consoles, but it's places like Japan an Europe where the numbers are quite a lot different, which gives Sony their huge lead.
Maybe with the jump this time, and possibly better software (since they have people like the Final Fantasy guy), the XBox will probably close the gap quite a bit, even in Japan.
ATi sales from XBox will probably still not be as high as the PS3, but they will probably be more than the original XBox.
750,000 people dont have SLI motherboards. Thats how many have shipped.
Just like Sony has shipped 3 million PSP's in the US, that doesnt mean they have sold 3 million.
Not everyone who has a SLI board, uses SLI anyways.
This topic about ATi being in trouble, because he "heard" something is pretty laughable, really.
Just like Sony has shipped 3 million PSP's in the US, that doesnt mean they have sold 3 million.
Not everyone who has a SLI board, uses SLI anyways.
This topic about ATi being in trouble, because he "heard" something is pretty laughable, really.
Keysplayr
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1. Vendors don't usually buy things that they feel they won't be able to sell. If 750,000 SLI motherboards shipped, I'm guessing the vendors that bought them to resell feel pretty confident about them moving.
2. Same principle for the Sony PSP.
3. This is true, but why buy an SLI board then? You can certainly buy a non SLI N-Force 4 mobo can you not? People who buy SLI boards are either going to use SLI, or anticipate using it in the future. I know I would not purchase an SLI board if I never intended to put it to use whether it be now or later.
4. ATI is not in trouble, at least not finiancially. M$ Xbox 360 was a home run for them.
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