ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M, what's this comparable to?

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Cook1

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Ok, so I'm really liking HP because you can configure a nice lil AMD laptop for not so much hurt on the bank account. My only concern is the video cards that you have to chose from with it. So my question is, what's the ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M compared to say a 9600/9700 Pro that I see other AMD laptops with.
 
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I would say garbage (I own one for the time being). My ZV6000 has been a huge pain in the neck and I think its because of the GPU. It over heats and I see more artifacts on my screen than there are in an undiscovered pyramid in Egypt. The last few days, my laptop has caused more trouble than its worth. It better than the Intel GMA (integrated) garbage GPU but no where near the power of a 9600. If you want power on a budget and the Acer 5020 series is within your budget, I reccommend waiting for it.

Also, the HP ZV6000 and its clone Compaq R4000 are crippled machines. HP does not have dual channel built in to the motherboard so the A64 3200+ in my computer does not function as good as it should.
 
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I ask because I currently own a lappy with one of those 9600 Pro turbo's, and HP is cheap, can get a 3700+ w/1GB for under $1500...which is way tempting. But I had no idea just how bad the video card was. Hate how limited the AMD market is when it comes to laptops. The better gaming CPU has the worst gaming video cards when it comes to laptops...sucks the big one!

But back on topic, thanks for the reply.
 
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The Xpress 200M is comparable to an X300SE, which is about the same as a 9600SE, which is considerably better than a GMA900 I'd imagine.
 
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Originally posted by: Cook1
I ask because I currently own a lappy with one of those 9600 Pro turbo's, and HP is cheap, can get a 3700+ w/1GB for under $1500...which is way tempting. But I had no idea just how bad the video card was. Hate how limited the AMD market is when it comes to laptops. The better gaming CPU has the worst gaming video cards when it comes to laptops...sucks the big one!

But back on topic, thanks for the reply.
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I wasn't aware HP offers the 3700+. When I ordered it was either 3500+ or 3800+. You might be getting the 3700+ chip but it won't perform as one.

Have you looked at the Gateway 7510GX? Its available for $1299 on sale at Best Buy (before tax and service plan, both of which are not optional IMHO). It has the 3700+ with 128 MB X600 GPU, 1GB RAM and 100 GB HD. The weight of it and the ZV6000/ R4000 is almost the same as well.
 
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Cook1

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The 7510GX eh? I will have to look into that then. Thanks for the heads up.
 
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A user on these forums ran 3DMark2001 on his HP L2000 w/Xpress200M IGP and it scored a good deal LESS than GMA900. Keep in mind GMA900 isn't THAT bad, it just BLOWS for newer games. For the moment, I rate the Xpress200M IGP as way better than Intel Extreme2, but less than GMA900.
 
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Graphics(?) Media Accelerator 900: Intel's latest integrated GPU on the 915 PCI-E platform (Centrino/Pentium M)
 
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Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900. Supports DX9 stuff. I was under the impression that the xpress 200 > GMA900 in real world performance, thats why I went ahead and bought a Turion vs.a PM (and the Turion is cheaper too). I could easily be wrong though. I got the V2000z and I believe it has 128MB onboard, and can share another 128 (read this on some other forum, so I cant actually vouch for this yet). I think the xpress 200 scores under 1K in 3d 05, big drop from my almost 6K on my desktop =(. Also, there is no dual channel on s754 processors. AMD had to go to s939 for dual channel - this has to do with the on die mem controller.
 
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I'd love to know how the RS480 Xpress 200 (particularly with 32mb dedicated ram) compares to...

* the mobile Radeon in a Dell Latitude D600

* An "8500" series Radeon. Particularly, the All in Wonder 8500DV.

My guess is that it's probably a little better, but mostly identical, to the Dell D600's onboard graphics (basically, the same chip, just a newer stepping with a few tweaks?).

I suspect it's awkward comparing it to the 8500 series because it can do things the 8500s can't do at all (in hardware, at least), but nevertheless trips and stumbles a bit trying to do things a high-end 8500 card can do with ease... in other words, new DirectX9 games probably look better with the Xpress 200, but old DirectX8 games probably play better on an old 8500-series card.

Comments?
 
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We've got an HP nx6125 & L2000 in the review lineup now, so you'll see 3DM01/03/05 & HL2/D3 benchies on it. Also might do an integrated GPU roundup, as we have performance #'s on GMA900 and an Intel Extreme2 laptop in the labs.
 
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Fox5

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Originally posted by: fbrdphreak
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A user on these forums ran 3DMark2001 on his HP L2000 w/Xpress200M IGP and it scored a good deal LESS than GMA900. Keep in mind GMA900 isn't THAT bad, it just BLOWS for newer games. For the moment, I rate the Xpress200M IGP as way better than Intel Extreme2, but less than GMA900.
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Yeah, but every review I've seen online shows the Xpress200M IGP blowing away the GMA900 is more recent thigns. Basically anything that uses shader shows a substantial advantage for the X200M, or at least an advantage for the X200M.(btw, is it the X200M with dedicated VRAM or shared?) Of course, it could be that Intel's drivers have improved since those reviews and increase performance though.

BTW, is the GMA950 just a clock bumped GMA900?
 
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The AMD laptops with some decent cards are going to be coming by the end of this year is what I've been hearing. Can anyone confirm?
 
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