ATI Radeon 9700 Pro And 440BX

Nacho

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Does Anyone know if the Ati 9700 pro can be used in a 440bx motherboard?

I have a Soyo sy-6ba+IV and intend to buy a bb Ati Radeon 9700 pro.

I know the motherboard is old, but right now I can only replace the video card.


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Jayczar

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your system will do that card no justice and it is probably
worth more than your whole system. I suggest you upgrade
your CPU and board, you will still have enough for and 8500.
 

boyRacer

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Wouldn't work with my brother's Asus CUBX... it would lock up when playing games or whatever... and it wasn't because of detonators... he had an 8500 running in there beforehand. We didn't bother to fix it or find the problem since the 9700 wasn't ours anyway. :) Probably works though...
 

Jayczar

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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
He asked if it would work. Yes.


maybe it does and maybe it doesn't, but what is the point in such an upgrade?
 

Nacho

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The point is I can't upgrade my system right now.
I don't live in the USA, and buying upgrades here is really expensive.
A friend of mine is going to USA for a few weeks, and he can't bring me a whole system.
So I'm picking something not too big, something that should last for 2 years.
If you can think anything better than a vid card...
 

Nacho

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I know it's too good for my pc right now.
I'll eventually upgrade the other components, in about 2-3 months.
 

Junkman

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Nacho does the 440BX support a 4x agp card or only 2x? I've got an asus p2b-f which is a 440bx chipset and it only supports 2x agp. You should check to see if the 9700 will even work in your board if it is only a 2x agp slot....you might be making an expensive mistake!
 

boyRacer

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440bx boards only support agp 2x but even then the 9700pro shouldn't have any problems. i'm sure we could've found the reason why our system was locking up... keep in mind that this was right when the 9700 came out... and it was the first revision... which had problems with some people's systems as well. you can buy a 9500 instead and get one of tualatin adapter things to bump the speed up a bit.
 

gururu

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my 3dfx v5500 didn't fit in my abit bg7 because of the new agp slot standard. I don't know if the new cards are
backwards compatible with old motherboard agp slots. i think they are but double check. otherwise, the card should work fine.
 

nRollo

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Nacho:
You should have your friend pick up a Athlon XP/motherboard/256DDR/and Ti4200. All of this can be had for the price of a R9700, and would be a far better upgrade than a 9700Pro alone. Putting the 9700 on a BX board probably won't even seem like much of an upgrade, if you currently have a VGA that's not cpu limited. (which I see you do, the GF1 DDR is capable of handling more than a 550 can give it)
Even the motherboard alone would give you more additional fps than a 9700
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: Jayczar
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
He asked if it would work. Yes.


maybe it does and maybe it doesn't, but what is the point in such an upgrade?



There are no "maybe's" about it. I use an ASUS P2B 440BX with a 9500 pro. And as I'm sure you know, the only difference
between a 9500 pro and a 9700 is the memory bus. Both are 8x AGP, 275 core, and 270 mem. Nacho says he knows he has an
outdated motherboard but he can only get the card for now. What is your malfunction?
keys
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: Rollo
Nacho:
You should have your friend pick up a Athlon XP/motherboard/256DDR/and Ti4200. All of this can be had for the price of a R9700, and would be a far better upgrade than a 9700Pro alone. Putting the 9700 on a BX board probably won't even seem like much of an upgrade, if you currently have a VGA that's not cpu limited. (which I see you do, the GF1 DDR is capable of handling more than a 550 can give it)
Even the motherboard alone would give you more additional fps than a 9700


Stick with Intel Nacho. IMHO
 

Jayczar

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Originally posted by: Nacho
The point is I can't upgrade my system right now.
I don't live in the USA, and buying upgrades here is really expensive.
A friend of mine is going to USA for a few weeks, and he can't bring me a whole system.
So I'm picking something not too big, something that should last for 2 years.
If you can think anything better than a vid card...



I see, well good luck. when you do further upgrade your system you will really
appreciate your purchase.


What is your malfunction?

lighten up dude, this is just a friendly discussion forum ;)
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: Jayczar
Originally posted by: Nacho
The point is I can't upgrade my system right now.
I don't live in the USA, and buying upgrades here is really expensive.
A friend of mine is going to USA for a few weeks, and he can't bring me a whole system.
So I'm picking something not too big, something that should last for 2 years.
If you can think anything better than a vid card...



I see, well good luck. when you do further upgrade your system you will really
appreciate your purchase.


What is your malfunction?

lighten up dude, this is just a friendly discussion forum ;)





My apologies. I just get frustrated when people go off on tangents not pertaining to the thread title. I am sure you meant well, as did I.

Keys.
:)
 

sep

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Originally posted by: Nacho
Does Anyone know if the Ati 9700 pro can be used in a 440bx motherboard?

I have a Soyo sy-6ba+IV and intend to buy a bb Ati Radeon 9700 pro.

I know the motherboard is old, but right now I can only replace the video card.


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Straight from the horses mouth ATI. Good Purchase...long live the BX Boards!
 

Bitek

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I don't mean to go on a tangent but...:)

I have a slot 1 440 BX, (asus p3b-f) with a tualatin celeron (1.0a@1.33), and they are awesome and very inexpensive (~$40 from newegg, add $20-$30 for an adapter.) For my vid I have a GF3 ti200 (paid $63 for a new visiontek @ BB.)

Not the fastest setup in the world, but it actually games really well. The most demanding game I play is BF1942 (a notorious resource pig) and I have no probs playing it, even with vid settings pretty high and lots of people on the server. I don't feel a need to get a P4 setup since this thing runs so well.

Honestly, I would recommend something like this (since you have a good budget, go for a GF4, and you will still end up paying less to get more.) Just getting the 9700 is like putting a jet engine on a Honda, you will never, ever, ever use the full capabilities of that beast. In fact BF1942 would not even run with a P3 ~500, radeon 9700 or no.

The card will run, but is a waste of money by itself, and you will prob see no difference from what you have now. G/L


Long Live the BX!!!:D
 

nRollo

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" have a slot 1 440 BX, (asus p3b-f) with a tualatin celeron (1.0a@1.33), and they are awesome and very inexpensive (~$40 from newegg, add $20-$30 for an adapter.) For my vid I have a"

I've got to disagree with this. I just bought my 3 year old a 1700+/hsf from newegg for ~ $70, and that is a LOT more power for your $70 than a 1GHz Celeron.

$70 Tualatin stomped flat by $70 of AMD fury

Ouch. 1.3 Tualatin=136fps Q3 1700+= 219fps
Not much comparison there.