ATI is not HDCP ready

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Munky

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That depends on your definition of "DHCP ready". It's misleading, but I'm sure anyone could twist the meaning of that statement to support their own claims. And, as far as I know, neither Ati nor Nv currently have any vga cards that fully support DHCP.
 
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Janooo

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Originally posted by: munky
That depends on your definition of "DHCP ready". It's misleading, but I'm sure anyone could twist the meaning of that statement to support their own claims. And, as far as I know, neither Ati nor Nv currently have any vga cards that fully support DHCP.
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It's ready when you have HDCP keys on a card. It's clear.
 
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DefRef

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Yep. Nvidia has the "we just make chips, not cards" excuse to hide behind, but vertically integrated ATI is cooked, esp. now that they're erasing the proof that they promised it. Time to dump that ATI stock!
 
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Ackmed

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Originally posted by: Crusader
Originally posted by: shuttleboi
I think ATI will face a class-action lawsuit fairly soon.
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Ouch. ATI doesnt need this now.
Good bye ATI.
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Most idiotic statement Ive read in a long time. And thats saying a lot from the posts on these boards.
 
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Creig

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Originally posted by: munky
That depends on your definition of "DHCP ready". It's misleading, but I'm sure anyone could twist the meaning of that statement to support their own claims. And, as far as I know, neither Ati nor Nv currently have any vga cards that fully support DHCP.
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I believe part of the reason there are no "vga" cards that support HDCP is that the HDCP specification calls for all digital outputs. So no VGA or DVI-I ports are allowed, only DVI-D.

And as far as ATI/Nv, I'd say they're both guilty of semi-false advertising. Sure, the GPU may be capable of HDCP, but apparently the PCB's aren't. And most, if not all, of the cards sold today are built using a reference design. So if ATI/Nv really wanted to ensure HDCP compliance, they could have simply provided the manufacturers with a reference design that included it.
 
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crazydingo

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Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: Crusader
Originally posted by: shuttleboi
I think ATI will face a class-action lawsuit fairly soon.
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Ouch. ATI doesnt need this now.
Good bye ATI.
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Most idiotic statement Ive read in a long time. And thats saying a lot from the posts on these boards.
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Actually it is in line with his previous posts. ;)
 
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CP5670

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I believe part of the reason there are no "vga" cards that support HDCP is that the HDCP specification calls for all digital outputs. So no VGA or DVI-I ports are allowed, only DVI-D.
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If this is true, then I don't think we'll get many future cards supporting it either.
 
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ATI has publicized that many of its consumer products are HDCP ready, when in fact are not. Some products boast HDMI connectivity, when they do not even have a physical HDMI connector nor do the products ship with an adapter.
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That's just plain wrong. I'm sure the lawyers are already swarming. Wonder how this slipped by? Was it on purpose or a mistake?

They are being burned at the stake on Slashdot (Although the Slashdot crowd likes burning just about any company).
http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/02/17/1353223
 
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JackBurton

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Originally posted by: munky
That depends on your definition of "DHCP ready". It's misleading, but I'm sure anyone could twist the meaning of that statement to support their own claims. And, as far as I know, neither Ati nor Nv currently have any vga cards that fully support DHCP.
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I GUARANTEE ATi and nVidia cards will not be and don't plan to be DHCP compliant. I mean, why would you want to issue out an IP address to a video card? :p
 
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Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: munky
That depends on your definition of "DHCP ready". It's misleading, but I'm sure anyone could twist the meaning of that statement to support their own claims. And, as far as I know, neither Ati nor Nv currently have any vga cards that fully support DHCP.
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I GUARANTEE ATi and nVidia cards will not be and don't plan to be DHCP compliant. I mean, why would you want to issue out an IP address to a video card? :p
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Maybe instead of a dongle ATI is moving to Cat5 cables? :p
 
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Munky

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Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: munky
That depends on your definition of "DHCP ready". It's misleading, but I'm sure anyone could twist the meaning of that statement to support their own claims. And, as far as I know, neither Ati nor Nv currently have any vga cards that fully support DHCP.
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I GUARANTEE ATi and nVidia cards will not be and don't plan to be DHCP compliant. I mean, why would you want to issue out an IP address to a video card? :p
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LOL, I cant believe that slipped by me. I guarantee it wont be the first time someone gets the jargon all backwards.
 
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ayabe

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Originally posted by: Wreckage
Originally posted by: JackBurton
Originally posted by: munky
That depends on your definition of "DHCP ready". It's misleading, but I'm sure anyone could twist the meaning of that statement to support their own claims. And, as far as I know, neither Ati nor Nv currently have any vga cards that fully support DHCP.
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I GUARANTEE ATi and nVidia cards will not be and don't plan to be DHCP compliant. I mean, why would you want to issue out an IP address to a video card? :p
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Maybe instead of a dongle ATI is moving to Cat5 cables? :p
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Static IPs FTW
 
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Janooo

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Originally posted by: CP5670
I believe part of the reason there are no "vga" cards that support HDCP is that the HDCP specification calls for all digital outputs. So no VGA or DVI-I ports are allowed, only DVI-D.
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If this is true, then I don't think we'll get many future cards supporting it either.
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It's not true. DVI-D can be mixed with VGA or DVI-I.
 
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imported_Crusader

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Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: Crusader
Originally posted by: shuttleboi
I think ATI will face a class-action lawsuit fairly soon.
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Ouch. ATI doesnt need this now.
Good bye ATI.
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Most idiotic statement Ive read in a long time. And thats saying a lot from the posts on these boards.
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Ouch? ATI doesnt need this now? Thats pretty much true.
And Goodbye ATI? I guess I didnt mean to offend you, are you brand loyal to ATI or something? ;)

This probably wont raise your spirits any
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Especially when this: NVIDIA reports record results comes out on the same day.
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Go Nvidia! Too bad for ATI, looks like hard times ahead for them.
 
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ayabe

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Originally posted by: Crusader
Originally posted by: Ackmed
Originally posted by: Crusader
Originally posted by: shuttleboi
I think ATI will face a class-action lawsuit fairly soon.
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Ouch. ATI doesnt need this now.
Good bye ATI.
Click to expand...

Most idiotic statement Ive read in a long time. And thats saying a lot from the posts on these boards.
Click to expand...

Ouch? ATI doesnt need this now? Thats pretty much true.
And Goodbye ATI? I guess I didnt mean to offend you, are you brand loyal to ATI or something? ;)

This probably wont raise your spirits any
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Especially when this: NVIDIA reports record results comes out on the same day.
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Go Nvidia! Too bad for ATI, looks like hard times ahead for them.
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You're a little green to start flamewars in here my friend.
 
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Creig

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Originally posted by: Crusader
Go Nvidia! Too bad for ATI, looks like hard times ahead for them.
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If Nvidia is still around today despite their false-advertising of PVP functions, I'm sure ATI won't have too much problem surviving this.
 
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