ATI H.264 Decoder is Up for Download

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Matthias99

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Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: bjc112
BS if they do not release a free version.

That was one of the reasons I snatched a x1800xt

Isn't the deal with these video decoders that ATI and nVidia have to pay licensing fees? If so why do you think you will get them free? :confused:

AFAIK, the only thing they (normally) have to pay fees for is DVD playback capability (which has to be licensed from the DVD Consortium). Many non-DRM codecs, in order to encourage wider adoption, make the file spec public and allow anyone to write a compatible player. I'm not sure about the specific legal situation of H.264, though.

Most likely either ATI is licensing some of the decoder tech from someone else and *they* are charging ATI for it, or they're just being greedy/stupid.
 

xtknight

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I'm fairly certain MPEG-4 Part 10 (H.264 AVC) is open for anybody to use (encode OR decode). x264 is a free H.264 encoder, and ffdshow is a free H.264 decoder.
 

Wag

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I downloaded some 1080p clips off Quicktime's site, and while they didn't play smoothly in QT7 in fullscreenmode before, they play perfectly in VLC fullscreen.

Not sure if this is because of ATI's trial install or not. This is on X800XTPE.
 

Chocolate Pi

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Well, It loads the right codec now (CyberLink H.264/AVC Decoder(ATI)) but it doesn't seem to work at all.

Maybe it's my video card BIOS.
 

bjc112

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Do the files have to be played in WMP to receive hardware decoding support?

I was under the impression the GPU would take some load of the CPU any chacne it got during H.264 playback!

 

Chocolate Pi

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Nope, ain't the BIOS. I also uninstalled all those codecs, and when that didn't work, I installed just Quicktime Alt. and that didn't work. IT always fails and says briefly "Error downloading codec". The ATI codec IS properly listed under file properties though.
 

xtknight

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I can't get the CyberLink video decoder to even load. Don't know what's wrong with it. Granted, I have a 7800GT but it should still work, just not as fast.
 

shadow goat

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Sorry for asking but could somebody please give me a link to the H.264 decoder download because I can't find it on the ATI site. Thanks.
 

Wag

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VLC is the only player I've found that can handle H.264 smoothly (fullscreen). And that's on my Opteron 170.
 

gsellis

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Chocolate Pi, H.264 does not belong to Apple. MOV does. MOV is the file format with a Quicktime header. H.264 can be encapsulated in AVI, which will play well in WMP. If there is a workaround for getting QT files to play in WMP, cool (the aforemention Quicktime Alternative). Otherwise, normal MOV files are going to have a Quicktime header and not play.
 

Wreckage

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Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: bjc112
BS if they do not release a free version.

That was one of the reasons I snatched a x1800xt

Isn't the deal with these video decoders that ATI and nVidia have to pay licensing fees? If so why do you think you will get them free? :confused:

Bingo, that's why you have to pay for the Purevideo "MPEG decoder" but not the WMV decoder.

I would guess that microsoft will release a WMP update for AVIVO like they did for Purevideo so that you can at least get that part for free.
 

Chocolate Pi

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Originally posted by: gsellis
Chocolate Pi, H.264 does not belong to Apple. MOV does. MOV is the file format with a Quicktime header. H.264 can be encapsulated in AVI, which will play well in WMP. If there is a workaround for getting QT files to play in WMP, cool (the aforemention Quicktime Alternative). Otherwise, normal MOV files are going to have a Quicktime header and not play.

Yes, this situation where all the major H.264 clips I've aware of are supplied by Apple is annoying, but not a technical or ownership limitation. As spicedaddy said, you can just change the file extention by renaming the file, that is what I've been doing.

For me that allows the program to recognize the proper codec to use, but it doesn't load it.