ATI Cards since the Radeon 9500 get Adaptive AA!

Bull Dog

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This has actually been available for quite some time with a registry hack but now the Cat6.5s officially support it.
 

morgash

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coolness. if i actually had a card that old still it might be more useful ;)

Morgash

*EDIT* wait a tic, why does this matter? since when can anything from the 9 series run any of today's games at decent res with AA on anyways?
 

Munky

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The funny part is I remember this feature being mentioned when the 9700p launched, but was MIA at the time.

http://www.techreport.com/etc/2002q3/agp-download/index.x?pg=1
The Radeon 9700 includes provisions to address one of the weaknesses of multisampling: textures with transparency. Multisampling handles antialiasing at the edges of polygons well, but it doesn't address "edges" inside of textures with transparency. Unfortunately, these provisions appear to require application-level support, and current apps don't provide it.
 

nitromullet

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Originally posted by: morgash
coolness. if i actually had a card that old still it might be more useful ;)

Morgash

*EDIT* wait a tic, why does this matter? since when can anything from the 9 series run any of today's games at decent res with AA on anyways?

The X800's get AAA as well with this update. I doubt that a 9x00 series card can really use this, but I bet some of the X800's can.
 

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I'm finding myself in the whole... Out of the loop scene here.

But.. Err.. What?

I guess it's all the RON with it's super-dooper graphics that have been keeping me from the internet and the cool-loop :lol:
 

Todd33

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Title is misleading, all FSAA solutions filter textures, you mean transparent textures.
 

Zenoth

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One of my friend feels relived and up-to-date with this new driver hehe. He owns a Radeon 9800 Pro, and never ever installed a new Catalyst version since 4.11 back in November 2004.

I told him about the new feature this morning, and he couldn't believe it. I can feel his joy though, I myself also owned a 9800 Pro in ancient times (about two years ago actually). I really liked it, but I felt that ATi slowly "forgot" about their aging generation.
 

Bull Dog

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Originally posted by: Todd33
Title is misleading
Ah your talking the subtitle.....but tell me.....since when did non-transparent textures have "jaggies"
 

TheRyuu

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Can a 9500, or 9800 for that matter, really even run any modern game with Adaptive-AA, let alone regular AA and higher res.
 

JBT

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Originally posted by: wizboy11
Can a 9500, or 9800 for that matter, really even run any modern game with Adaptive-AA, let alone regular AA and higher res.

probably not alot but AAA really makes fences etc much better in any game that actually supports it.
 

Todd33

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Originally posted by: Bull Dog
Originally posted by: Todd33
Title is misleading
Ah your talking the subtitle.....but tell me.....since when did non-transparent textures have "jaggies"

Jaggies is slang for aliasing. Aliasing effects edges and textures. If your texture is not filtered and downsampled *(mip-mapped, etc.) when it is displayed in a distant polygon you get shimmering, just like in PS2 games.
 

Firsttime

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Would this update kill the preformace of my 9600pro? I don't play any uber modern games or anything, just AoE3 and I want to start playing Rise of Legends.
 

thilanliyan

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Originally posted by: Fox5
What's the performance hit from enabling AAA anyway?

When I enabled it on my previous X800GTO2, it wasn't that large of a performance hit but was still noticeable.
 

BFG10K

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Good on ATi for making it official - no more registry editing. :thumbsup:

Title is misleading, all FSAA solutions filter textures,
No, MSAA cannot AA textures, only polygon (geometry) edges. In order to AA textures you need SSAA which is exactly what AAA does for alpha textures.

To AA all textures you have to use full screen super-sampling like nVidia's 8xAA/16xAA.

What's the performance hit from enabling AAA anyway?
It depends on the game. In a game like Far Cry with lots of vegetation the performance hit will be high but for most games using the odd chain-link fence or grating it should be quite usable.

Also you can use performance AAA if quality is too slow.
 

Bull Dog

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Originally posted by: Firsttime
Would this update kill the preformace of my 9600pro? I don't play any uber modern games or anything, just AoE3 and I want to start playing Rise of Legends.


If you don't enable it, you won't have any performance hit. :p
 

dug777

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Originally posted by: wizboy11
Can a 9500, or 9800 for that matter, really even run any modern game with Adaptive-AA, let alone regular AA and higher res.

you miss the somewhat obvious point of the bazillions of older games out there that will benefit from it ;)
 

Fox5

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Bleh, I updated my drivers, yet Adaptive AA still isn't an option for me. I have a Gigabyte X800XT, what gives?
 

TheRyuu

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Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: wizboy11
Can a 9500, or 9800 for that matter, really even run any modern game with Adaptive-AA, let alone regular AA and higher res.

you miss the somewhat obvious point of the bazillions of older games out there that will benefit from it ;)

I said modern didn't I?

Sure, now my old 9800XT can run all those older games with AAA (maby UT2004?, Half-Life?).
 

clickynext

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Doubt this will be of any use to me, 9600 Pro owner, since without any AA, KOTOR 2 is already choppy.
 

Avalon

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Originally posted by: wizboy11
Originally posted by: dug777
Originally posted by: wizboy11
Can a 9500, or 9800 for that matter, really even run any modern game with Adaptive-AA, let alone regular AA and higher res.

you miss the somewhat obvious point of the bazillions of older games out there that will benefit from it ;)

I said modern didn't I?

Sure, now my old 9800XT can run all those older games with AAA (maby UT2004?, Half-Life?).

Perfect for HL and UT2K4, I think. Heck, look at how many gamers still play CS 1.6
 

ronnn

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Sin emergence looks much better. Was nice to get a new feature for old tech.
 

Cookie Monster

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I read somewhere TRAA was also hidden in the 6 series cards although activating through registry does nothing.

Sounds pretty good to me. Atleast AAA is available and useable on X series cards, but maybe not the 9 series cards.