ATI AIW Radiaon 32 cannot install TV with XP Driver, crashes if I install original CD and more...

[TungFree]

ATI AIW Radiaon 32 cannot install TV with XP Driver, crashes if I install original CD and more...

I have Installed XP 8 times over the weekend (Fresh install) each time I tried another way.

The only one that installs the TV is the original CD ( ATI relase # 104. The release #104 did not have winXP driver but did for win2k. When I install it it reboots and crashes

I tried rebooting in "Safe Mode" and installing over it the win XP driver from ATI site for the All In Wonder Radion. The next thing that happens is other drivers get disabled. Then I tried to start the TV and it reports it cannot see the channels ( I selected the video driver from the 2 possible, namely audio or video)

No other installation exept the CD release 104, of drivers, gets me the TV.

Has anyone succeded to get it working? I think "rbV5" nickname did succeed 2 years ago when he had the same video card as I.

BTW I am running the Gold version of XP, had not had a chance to upgrade to SP1a and the other update, no use upgrading the updates, till I know I can run my video properly...

 

[rbV5]

BTW I am running the Gold version of XP, had not had a chance to upgrade to SP1a and the other update, no use upgrading the updates, till I know I can run my video properly...

I couldn't disagree more. If I were you, I would update to SP1a and all the updates at windows update before going any further. Then make sure you have your virus scanner updated and running...minimum. You are just asking for trouble if that rig is online at all.

You should not even consider the drivers/MMC on the CD for installation. The CD is good for validating the DVD player update install, the Gemstar guide+ software and the ARC demo..the rest is crap-tastically bad. Heck, the native XP drivers alone should give you a working card except OpenGL acceleration.

I'm running short of time tonight, but IMHO you should be at XP SP1a and DX9b (unless you have a PAL card<you don't>) before even thinking Radeon driver installation, even if it means fresh XP install number nine.

 

[TungFree]

Hi again and thank you for the repply,

So from your input I have a question about the drivers.
""You should not even consider the drivers/MMC on the CD for installation.""

Since the only driver that worked to set up the TV was the original CD, did you mean that the original CD is crap?
Or is the MMC driver, the New driver for XP that I downloaded from ATI?
Which driver should I use?

I downloaded sp1a file can I just execute sp1a file after I install XPPro and will it add itself to the system?

On the XP front I tried slipstreaming the winXPPro with SP1a and then tried 3 times to boot up with that. and all I got was a stuck screen at the flag with the black screen, it never even booted up just hangs, so my bootable SP1a XP CD is useless.

I am trying to reduce my workload.
I have found online an update file about 225+megs size as a single compulated file that will upgrad a winXP/SP1a setup in one fell swoop up to Januart 2004. Do you know anything about it?
Everyone who tied that upgrade approach has praised the man who did the enormeous amount of work to get it into a single upgrade file once. They all say it saves huge amount of time, especially if they have several or a large array of computers to upgrade. He keeps upgrading the file every month.

 

[shimsham]

this is what i had to do to get my AIW 8500DV working tonight. i have XP with all current updates.

go to the previous versions page found here.

download the package named "Catalyst 3.10 Single Bundle".

scroll down and download the ATI MultiMedia Center 7.7.0.1.

uninstall your current display drivers and multimedia center.

after the restart, install the 3.10 bundle, and then the media center.

after i did this, i had all AIW functionality, with the 3.10 display drivers. im sure you could download just the display adapters from the
4.1 catalyst page, and then grab the MMC drivers from the older versions page, and that would work also. i just used the 3.10s since everything i wanted to download was all on one page.

the reason i had to do it this way, instead of just the whole pack of 4.1, is due to the MMC versions above 7.7.0.1. only working with radeon 9000 cards and above. at least, thats what i gather from a few hours of trial and error and reading on the site. there may be other updated versions that may work, but 7.7 is the only one i saw mentioned for cards under 9000.

 

[rbV5]

Since the only driver that worked to set up the TV was the original CD, did you mean that the original CD is crap?

I meant exactly what I said. You should not even consider the drivers/MMC on the CD for installation. The CD is good for validating the DVD player update install, the Gemstar guide+ software and the ARC demo..the rest is crap-tastically bad Those are the orginal radeon drivers and multimedia suite, they have improved dramatically since then.

I am trying to reduce my workload

To reduce your workload, you should take a step by step approach. First and foremost, you need your operating system up to date and patched. However you acccomplish that is up to you, but you will definately cost yourself alot of time using a hap-hazard approach and ignoring the readme files and install notes for the Catalyst drivers.

the reason i had to do it this way, instead of just the whole pack of 4.1, is due to the MMC versions above 7.7.0.1. only working with radeon 9000 cards and above.

Thats untrue, I use Cat4.1 and MMC 8.8 with my AIW 7500 and it works great. Its the DVD decoder setup that requires the install disc from the newer cards, but the older DVD player works fine with MMC8.8. provided you install ATI DVD player 7.6 prior to installing MMC8.8, and de-selecting the DVD install when you install MMC8.8. That is what I would recommend as MMC is definately that much better than the prior versions

 

[TungFree]

I have downloaded these 2 files But how did you know which files you need or which files I need for the AIW Radiaon 32?

I scanned the pages but did not immediately find why those 2 files will work.

rbV5 had mentioned to me and others 2 years ago that once the wrong driver is installed, no amount of uninstalling and reinstalling will work and that it must fillow with a fresh install because of the kind of driver that is needed by the above card. Possibly your card being a later card may work that way, what made you think my card will doek that way too?

well of course your suggestion is easier since I cannot try it untill I upgrade, because I think it wants to see DirectX9 and that may be inside the SP1a and other upgrades, I would hate to have to do a clean install then, so unless you know something about the driver problem of the old radiaon32 AIW driver, which may be different than your card requires, it is safer to do what rbV5 recommends and just do the fresh install one more time. (Not that I want to, but more that I do not want problems to continue).

 

[TungFree]

shimsham
ooops correction:
Since I know that rbV5 has never steered me wrong and is very accurate to his observations I will toss the 2 files and download the ones he suggests.

rbv5 thanks

 

[rbV5]

it is safer to do what rbV5 recommends and just do the fresh install one more time. (Not that I want to, but more that I do not want problems to continue).

Alternatively, ATI has a driver uninstall utility Here and drivercleaner2 Here removes ATI drivers as well (prefered by most)

Be sure to read the documentation before using these utilities, but I've not had issues using either tool. Drivercleaner does get some files traces that the ATI utility will leave behind.

 

[TungFree]

rbV5
I downloaded both programs and read their files. This weekens I will go work on the upgrading.

Thank you again.

 

[TungFree]

I did a fresh install and downloaded the ATI drivers ATI suggested but the 2nd driver of 3 was asking me for a CD and I was unable to install it using my original CD (I assumed) so only 1 and 3 of 3 files were installed.

This is the site I downloaded the drivers from

Whenever I pressed the TV botton it presented me a requester telling me that I do not have the latest display driver and suggested I get it.
So I tried uninstalling the driver with the programs and the instructions that were in the readme file. I ended up in more trouble than before and was unsuccesfull at it and lost the ability to get any video.

So one more time I did a fresh Install updated all the way to January 2004.

Can someone tell me what driver to use for the radiaon 32?

the catalist 4.1 is for 7500 and not lower. has anyone with my card tried successfully to install any driver with XP? This is my ELEVENTH fresh install...

 

[Angus]

hum... did you downlaod the 4.10 (25.9 mb version)?

1.uninstall the driver and the multi center, then restart
2. install the new driver and then restart
3. after restarted your pc, the windows will detect and install the wdm driver
4. install the multimedia center.

 

[rbV5]

I did a fresh install and downloaded the ATI drivers ATI suggested but the 2nd driver of 3 was asking me for a CD and I was unable to install it using my original CD (I assumed) so only 1 and 3 of 3 files were installed

Part of the problem here is that you keep mixing up your terms. The link goes to the MMC software download, not the drivers. Did the drivers install OK?

the catalist 4.1 is for 7500 and not lower. has anyone with my card tried successfully to install any driver with XP? This is my ELEVENTH fresh install...

Well thats not true. Catalyst 4.1 supports ALL RADEON cards, from the Catalyst readme:

The CATALYST? software suite is designed to support the following ATI desktop product family: RADEON? 9800 series
RADEON? 9700 series

RADEON? 9600 series
RADEON? 9500 series

RADEON? 9200 series
RADEON? 9100 series

RADEON? 9000 series
RADEON? 8500 series

RADEON? 7500 series
RADEON? 7200 series


RADEON? 7000 series


I have installed AIW Radeon cards in XP with no trouble several times.

 

[TungFree]

rbV5
is the aiw radion 32DDR a 7000 series? I thought it was not. I thought the 7000 series came out after the 32 DDR and that is why I have not used the Catalist 4.1. I know you used to have this card but I did not know you had it when the catalist 4.1 came out.

 

[TungFree]

angus
which AIW card are you using?