ATI 9800 NP $259 shipped

[degeester]

I ordered the ATI Radeon 9800 Pro retail version from Dell home for 329 shipped, no sales tax in CA. Just wondering if I should cancel to get the 9800 NP?

 

[Bad Dude]

Originally posted by: stoicchris
How does this compare to a 9700 pro?

Yes. I want to know that too.

 

[rasputinj]

Originally posted by: Parasitic
Maybe it's just me, but Newegg's afternoon or next-day shipping is AWESOME. Basically that translates to next day FEDEX DELIVERY for me since I live in Southern California

Great deal, btw.

I love ordering from Newegg in Cali, Next day delivery, they are also great about returns.

 

[Parasitic]

Originally posted by: Bad_Dude

Originally posted by: stoicchris
How does this compare to a 9700 pro?

Yes. I want to know that too.

Slower stock.

R350 and R300 clock-for-clock comparison shows that a Radeon 9800 Pro @ 325/310 (Radeon 9700 Pro stock) performs just about the same, and factoring in that a Radeon 9800np is like 320/290 it'd be slower.

 

[motoxpress]

From Ati's site:
RADEON? 9800 PRO RADEON? 9800 PRO RADEON? 9800
Engine Clock (MHz) 380 380 325
Memory Clock (MHz) 700 680 580

It seems that if you could get a 9800 NP that could be overclocked close to the Pro specs you would have a great deal.

MX

 

[stoicchris]

Slower stock.

R350 and R300 clock-for-clock comparison shows that a Radeon 9800 Pro @ 325/310 (Radeon 9700 Pro stock) performs just about the same, and factoring in that a Radeon 9800np is like 320/290 it'd be slower.

I assume that the two would preform comparably given the 9700 pro's advangtage in clock speed compared with better efficiency of the 9800 core.

 

[Parasitic]

Originally posted by: stoicchris

Slower stock.

R350 and R300 clock-for-clock comparison shows that a Radeon 9800 Pro @ 325/310 (Radeon 9700 Pro stock) performs just about the same, and factoring in that a Radeon 9800np is like 320/290 it'd be slower.

I assume that the two would preform comparably given the 9700 pro's advangtage in clock speed compared with better efficiency of the 9800 core.

If you were to use the hacked drivers a Radeon 9700 Pro can receive Radeon 9800's driver optimizations.

 

[gouda96]

If you can flash the bios and oc at the highest to 9800pro speeds...YOU DO NOT HAVE A 9800PRO!

If you are basically softmodding and oc'ing than you cannont say you have a 9800pro unless you are able to oc as high as a 9800pro. You must compare them both fully oc'd to be able to say you have oc'd to a 9800pro. Anyone oc'ing 1 card will be oc'ing the other.

If you want a great card and want to save money than get the 9800, but don't expect to get a full 9800pro. What you will get is an excellent video card at a more affordable price.

 

[edplayer]

Originally posted by: Parasitic
Slower stock.

R350 and R300 clock-for-clock comparison shows that a Radeon 9800 Pro @ 325/310 (Radeon 9700 Pro stock) performs just about the same, and factoring in that a Radeon 9800np is like 320/290 it'd be slower.

I'd say that test is highly suspect.

First off, they used 2 different drivers. I would have guessed that Anand would have had more sense. Its not like he just started benchmarking last week. "ATI Radeon 9700 Pro (128MB) - CATALYST 3.1 ATI Radeon 9800 Pro (128MB) - 7.84 Beta Drivers"

Here is a link to a newer test: http://www.techspot.com/reviews/hardware/sapphire_9800pro/index.shtml

They used the same drivers (Cat 3.6) for both cards.

"After some quick n? dirty tests where we underclocked the 9800 (identical clock frequencies to the 9700), it was not any faster at all when no FSAA was used due to the fact that the core improvements as I said above where limited to FSAA modes only. However, when the same test was run with 4x FSAA and 8x Perf AF enabled, the 9800 scored 10% faster than its older brother, thus that difference is purely what the improvements inside the new R350 core brought to the table. When I cranked up the visuals even further to 4x FSAA and 8x Quality AF, the 9800Pro impressively scored 30% faster than its older brother (from 1024 to 1600 resolutions), you will want to take a closer look to the complete numbers however."