ATI 9700pro or 5900se

[dynasty]

I currently have an evga 5900se that is flashed to a 5900. A guy wants trade me his 9700pro for my card. Is my card faster? Will I see any difference? Thanks

 

[Evdawg]

i would think a 9700 pro... but i cant verify that.

 

[AnnoyedGrunt]

In stock form, the two are very similar. Don't know what your flash may have done. I was looking at these two cards, and actually bought a 5900XT but couldn't get it to install. I tried a 9700pro and couldn't get that to work either. I finally got the 9700pro to work after formatting and doing a clean install of windows, and I sold the 5900XT to a friend. When I bought the cards, they were all around $190-$200, with the 9700pro at the higher end of the scale. I think the 9700pro is a bit faster, especially when you anable AA and AF, but I don't know how significant the difference is.

I like the 9700pro, but I prefer the Nvidia driver interface and the ease with which you can overclock the 5900XT. When we intalled the card in my friends computer we got a nice little overclock right out of the box (after enabling something in the registry, I forget exactly what, but it exposed an overclocking utility build in to the Nvidia driver). I would have been happy with either card, but then I was coming from a GF3 Ti200, so either card was a huge improvement.

-D'oh!

 

[Sonic587]

This should give you a good idea of what to do.

 

[dguy6789]

well, it depends. The 9700 Pro WILL OWN the geforce in DX9, but the geforce WILL OWN the 9700 Pro in opengl. And they are very close in dx8 and older stuff. You decide, I personally would take the 9700 Pro because I like the better IQ on the ATI cards, and I like to use aa/af alot.

 

[TStep]

With a little time, effort, and luck you could achieve this. Absolutely incredible with the 5900XT. If something that drastic wasn't on your mind, I'd go 9700pro, as the IQ is slightly better and still fast.

 

[McArra]

Originally posted by: dguy6789
well, it depends. The 9700 Pro WILL OWN the geforce in DX9, but the geforce WILL OWN the 9700 Pro in opengl. And they are very close in dx8 and older stuff. You decide, I personally would take the 9700 Pro because I like the better IQ on the ATI cards, and I like to use aa/af alot.

 

[Schadenfroh]

i would go with the 5900, better for openGL and preDX9 games

 

[Cerb]

They will perform at par with one another. However, the 9700 Pro is much more future-proof.

 

[GeneralGrievous]

9700 > any 5xxx card.

 

[Evdawg]

Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous
9700 > any 5xxx card.

ummm no.... 9700 < 5900/5950

 

[MemberSince97]

Turn up AA and AF and ATI chews the sh
|t outta nV....Simple as that

 

[Concillian]

Originally posted by: TStep
With a little time, effort, and luck you could achieve this. Absolutely incredible with the 5900XT. If something that drastic wasn't on your mind, I'd go 9700pro, as the IQ is slightly better and still fast.

Damn, that's pretty cool. I'm having a 9700 np shipped to me now, and I have a 5900XT, I was trying to figure which I would play with and which I would leave alone so I have a backup... I was going to play with the 9700, but this article makes me think about playing with the 5900XT.

I guess as long as I don't go overboard and fry one, I can play with both

Anyway all the research I did said that the 9700 Pro and the 5900XT were similar for speeds, but the 9700Pro had an IQ advantage. If you're voltmodding and such, I'd guess the 5900XT would have the advantage, save the obvious ATI = better D3D and nVidia = better OGL slants.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous
9700 > any 5xxx card.

Why dont you stop posting biased threads. Because everyone here knows damn well that the 9700Pro is NOT better than all the 59xx series of cards. Even the XT gives it a run for its money. Doesn't the 9700Pro lack some features that the 9800 and 5900 series have.

-Kevin

 

[BFG10K]

The ATi card will run shader and AA/AF situations faster.

 

[imported_michaelpatrick33]

Look at the aa and high quality settings from
http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20031229/index.html courtesy of Sonic 586 for some real benchmark ideas. Seem pretty close with the 9700Pro leading in the high quality settings

 

[Gamingphreek]

Well i guess you are overlooking that half of the time the benches are CPU bound and within a margin of error. Im not saying that its like that on AA and AF all the time but on some of the regular ones, yeah most are completely GPU dependant.

Also if OCing at all i would highly recommend an Nvidia card. They seem to go farther and benefit more from OCing than ATI does. When OCed Nvidia cards regain the lead by a deent margin in some cases. I have my 5900XT (running 2.8ns i think ram) OCed to 450 and 800. That is well above the theoretical max. Not too sure on ATI but im positive that they do not benefgit as much nor OC quite as well as the Nvidia cars, IN GENERAL. There will always be a super card in either bunch but in general is what im referring to.

-Kevin

 

[dynasty]

I just did a benchmark on 3dmark03. I get 5489 with my setup. Will my score go up you think with the 9700pro? I did a post on hardforum.com about the same ting and they said that there about the same speed. What about with the card overclocked to 375/340? Thanks, I haven't had an ati card for awhile, so have forgotten a bunch of stuff about them. Thanks