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ATI 9600XT AIW $79.99 OEM No Rebates

From what others have said, it looks like it's not even clocked like a 9600 XT so don't expect 9600XT performance.

Anyone know what the "DG" in 9600XT DG stands for?
 
Originally posted by: uglywolf
From what others have said, it looks like it's not even clocked like a 9600 XT so don't expect 9600XT performance.

Anyone know what the "DG" in 9600XT DG stands for?
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I always thought the AIW 9600XT was clocked faster than the regular 9600XT.
 
Originally posted by: dani
Originally posted by: uglywolf
From what others have said, it looks like it's not even clocked like a 9600 XT so don't expect 9600XT performance.

Anyone know what the "DG" in 9600XT DG stands for?
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I always thought the AIW 9600XT was clocked faster than the regular 9600XT.
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It is, according to ATI.

From the ATI website:

AIW 9600 PRO RADEON 9600 XT AIW 9600 XT

Bus Type AGP 4X, 8X AGP 4X, 8X AGP 4X, 8X
Memory (MB) 128 MB 128 MB 128 MB
Memory Type DDR1 DDR1 DDR1
Memory Interface 128-bit 128-bit 128-bit
Memory Clock 325 MHz 300 MHz 325 MHz
Engine Clock 400 MHz 500 MHz 525 MHz
Pipelines 4 4 4
Pixel Fillrate 1.6 Gpixels/sec 2.0 Gpixels/sec 2.1 Gpixels/sec
Geometry Rate 200 MTriangles 250 MTriangles 263 MTriangles
 
From ATI group:

"ToddRe: what means "DG" in ATI All In Wonder 9600XT DG VideoMon Jun 20, 2005 14:3063.231.50.156

I got one from fry's, It does not have a remote, it does have cables, and it is not an XT version. "
 
🙁 $80 for an OEM is way too much.


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Originally posted by: Garlic
🙁 $80 for an OEM is way too much.
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Read the rules again.

What about COURTESY?

No thread crapping. If the subject matter of a deal does not interest you, do not post negative comments about it, or about other members, in the thread.
 
Originally posted by: esquared
Originally posted by: Garlic
🙁 $80 for an OEM is way too much.
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Read the rules again.

What about COURTESY?

No thread crapping. If the subject matter of a deal does not interest you, do not post negative comments about it, or about other members, in the thread.
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It would not be threadcrapping if the person could produce a similar product on another site for a lower price. that would be comparison shopping. Fatwallet lets you rate threads and posts ... should that be considered threadcrapping?



As far as the speeds and whether it's an 'XT' this has been discussed for various video cards over the last decade. It is the same situation as the 'Geforce2 Pro' that was not clocked as fast as a Geforce2 Pro. They can pretty much name the card whatever they want as long as they are truthful about the chip int it. This may in fact be an 'XT' chip clocked differently. Towards the end of a product cycle the yields get better and they wind up with a surplus of chips qualified at higher speeds... Now the problem is... who the hell would want a 9600XT? it's dated and in hindsight no one can justify the price difference between a 9600 pro and 9600 XT based in performance comapred to what's offered today. People only pay the mad premiums on XT's when they first come out because they're the absolute fastest. So Ati/manufacturers know this and want to preserve their food chain keeping people buying new products whil still selling off the remainder of the old... At the same time they don't want the remainder of the old outperforming their current value because they'll wind up with a huge surplus of their CURRENT value line. It's all economics.

So what do they do ? They take the high clockable old chips and stick them in subpar cards and lower the clockspeed a bit while still calling it an 'XT' to create a new 'pricepoint' that will get them sold without hurting sales of current valueline products. People who want the 'name' will buy it and peopel who want the slightly faster latest and greatest will buy the newer value line.
 
It would not be threadcrapping if the person could produce a similar product on another site for a lower price. that would be comparison shopping. Fatwallet lets you rate threads and posts ... should that be considered threadcrapping?
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You're absolutely correct. All he/she had to do is link or tell us ATHDers where we could get the same deal for less money. That is not threadcrapping. That's doing us all a favor, and most of us appreciate that sort of info. Just dropping in to tell us something is too expensive is threadcrapping.

 
I don't think continuos posturing on the subject is getting anywhere. Obviously the way it was said was perceived to be threadcrapping....amen.
 
Originally posted by: esquared
Originally posted by: Garlic
🙁 $80 for an OEM is way too much.
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Read the rules again.

What about COURTESY?

No thread crapping. If the subject matter of a deal does not interest you, do not post negative comments about it, or about other members, in the thread.
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I'd concur it is too much you could get a used 9800pro AIW Used for not much more.
 
Originally posted by: hifi
at this price why not go for 6800..? twice more powerful tho not all those unnessacery extras.
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if they are 'unnecesasry extras' then this is not the type of card you are shopping for *rolls eyes*.

I wouldn't want to buy a car with all those unnecessary extras like doors and a roof when I could just buy a motorcycle or boat instead.

see how stupid that sounds ? 🙂
 
Originally posted by: hifi
at this price why not go for 6800..? twice more powerful tho not all those unnessacery extras.
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Do you actually think that this card is being recomended to someone who doesn't want a TV tuner? And lets see you show us a 6800 new for $79 anyway. This card is for people who want the TV/FM tuner, multimedia software and a graphics card that can handle media center use. This card is a good deal for that, but no one said it was a gaming card................ And to the guy who said he'd rather have a used 9800PRO for a lttle more money; some of us want our stuff new with a warranty and don't want to risk our cash. Something new vs something better but used and more expensive is incomparable....
 
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