ATI 9600 overclocked. Check this out.

[kylebisme]

ya and then you went of on your little tirade about how people shouldn't talk about it like a whiny little prick as usual. personaly, i think it should always be noted when benchmark scores are invalid.

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
ya and then you went of on your little tirade about how people shouldn't talk about it like a whiny little prick as usual. personaly, i think it should always be noted when benchmark scores are invalid.

but we have talked about it. over and over and over and over and over..... it got old...fast...

 

[clicknext]

Originally posted by: eno
I work at a computer shop. We do carry Emachines. There is a new model that comes with a 64bit Athlon along with a 9600 or maybe pro.

Anyway I wanted to test its raw performance right out of the box. I got a 9752 , 3dMark2001 score. Now I loaded Rage3d to see how well the 9600 would overclock. Stock it ran 324/202 and scored that 9752. Then I overclocked to about 360/225 and scored around 10500. So I kept upping the speed and watching the first benchmark screen for artifacts but they never came. I ended up MAXING the sliders all the way to the right which was 436/265(give or take 5mhz) and the benchmark ran perfect with not 1 artifact or hickup. I ended up with a 12,500 score right out of the box. I ran it for a hour with no issues. That is the craziest overclock I have ever seen. My 9700pro only runs max now at 389mhz/337(which I know is comparing apples to oranges) and suprised me to see me able to just max out the overclock program. I was expecting to see serious artifacts and even lock ups but it never did. Man... crazy little emachine.

In response to the ORIGINAL post, yes 9600 overclocks pretty amazingly. The one you looked at is not a Pro because those are clocked 400 on the core to begin with. I have a Pro and it overclocks to 500/275 with one issue so far, slight artifacting in NHL2004, but no issue in any other of the many games I've played.

 

[VirginiaDonkey]

well, I say that a 9600 with passive cooling that can get up to 436mhz, is a damn fine overclock

 

[Jeff7181]

Well my dad can beat up BOTH of your dads so just shut up already!

 

[Blastman]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Well my dad can beat up BOTH of your dads so just shut up already!

Ya, I got to go play a little crib. Cheers.

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Well my dad can beat up BOTH of your dads so just shut up already!

your dad Matrox?

 

[stardust]

Originally posted by: Blastman

Originally posted by: nick1985
i can score higher with the rig in my sig. thats not impressive at ALL, especially with an amd64

Sure you can, because NV has a pile of cheats in 3Dmark2001. Reduce your score on a 4200 by about 14%?(multiply x .86).

Do yourself a favor and keep sleeping under that rock of yours

 

[eno]

Wow I come back a couple hours later to all this. Nice.

To answer a fellas question it is a ATI made card and does have active cooling. Just amazed me that I pegged the sliders to max and still performed fine. I was thinking maybe software wasn't overclocking it but sure enough the scores went up.

And to Nick1985, YES the computer does get sold once all others are gone. I overclocked it for like 15mins ran a benchmark then uninstalled the program and set back to factory default. Sorry if you think the computer is tainted and not worth selling, I would rather buy that one then a unopened box anyway since I know how well that card works. Thanks for turning my post into something different than originally tended. YOU DA MAN.

 

[Blastman]

Originally posted by: stardust

Do yourself a favor and keep sleeping under that rock of yours

Do everyone a favor and have a point when you post instead of just trolling.

 

[Richdog]

Originally posted by: nick1985
i can score higher with the rig in my sig. thats not impressive at ALL, especially with an amd64

Nick1985, are you always this much of a twat? He's talking about that specific card, not your rig. Duh... It seems the majority of your posts are half-arsed, nasty and uninformed little digs at people...

Anyway Nick1985 and Blastman, way to hijack someone's thread and turn it into a childish argument that we've seen only about 1'000'000 times here already.

But to the original poster, nice overclock, a 1/3 increase in performance is nothing to be sniffed at.

 

[xSkyDrAx]

You know the best way to ignore the ati, nvidia 'cheating' junk is to just IGNORE(as in pretending its not there and dont respond to it) and pay attention to the origional post or something. Yes I know im being a bit hypocritcal by saying this but I just wanted to point it out.


Anyways, thats a pretty nice overclock for a non pro since they usually do have the slower ns ram. The core wouldnt be much a suprise since a lot of people have been able to get their 9600pro's to 500mhz core which is over 100mhz in the core clock. Still pretty sweet o/c.

Cheers! :beer::beer:

 

[TimisoaraKill]

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
ya and then you went of on your little tirade about how people shouldn't talk about it like a whiny little prick as usual. personaly, i think it should always be noted when benchmark scores are invalid.

but we have talked about it. over and over and over and over and over..... it got old...fast...

Old or new this stuff this can't be ignored , for this in sports cheating with steroids is forbidden , ..ATI did this once and it was sad but they stopped after that , now Nvidia cheat so much and in a lot of ways that we hawe no ideea anymore how those cards perform so is not fair to compeare benchmarks with effects cut , bilinear filtering , replaced codes , cheated AA and so on because this is not the real score .
If you like this way is ok with me but you must understand that exactly how you like this , some other persons don't and they can't accept such behaviour because even if is old stuff like you say it still happens today.

 

[Maddscientist]

Originally posted by: eno
Wow I come back a couple hours later to all this. Nice.

To answer a fellas question it is a ATI made card and does have active cooling. Just amazed me that I pegged the sliders to max and still performed fine. I was thinking maybe software wasn't overclocking it but sure enough the scores went up.

And to Nick1985, YES the computer does get sold once all others are gone. I overclocked it for like 15mins ran a benchmark then uninstalled the program and set back to factory default Sorry if you think the computer is tainted and not worth selling, I would rather buy that one then a unopened box anyway since I know how well that card works. Thanks for turning my post into something different than originally tended. YOU DA MAN.

Damn man nice overclock and if you told me how high you overclocked it if I was a customer I wouldnt mind at all and would buy it in a heartbeat......However I notice a hole in your story? Not to nitpick or anything but this mistruth kinda was to hard to miss.


I ended up with a 12,500 score right out of the box. I ran it for a hour with no issues.

So is it 15m or 1 hour and 15 minutes? Not that I would care if I was buying it....just found it odd you said 2 diffrent times?

 

[Lonyo]

Not trying to rain on your parade , but my 9800np (325MHz out of the box) got 430MHz, just 6MHz below your 9600

ATi seem to make pretty good overclockers, ~33% is nothing to be sniffed at, I can even get it to 440MHz, but only ~90% stable. RAM sucked though (290 to 330).

 

[high]

Good point Lonyo. I was also about to say that my 9800 np out of the box is currently at 450/340 with stock cooling and infineon ram. They are very nice overclockers with this core, that's for sure.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
ya and then you went of on your little tirade about how people shouldn't talk about it like a whiny little prick as usual. personaly, i think it should always be noted when benchmark scores are invalid.

but we have talked about it. over and over and over and over and over..... it got old...fast...

well if you don't want to talk about driver cheats, you should probably avoid bringing up invaild benchmark scores.

 

[Pete]

Nice O/C, eno. I'm surprised a 9600 came with active cooling, but I guess it may reduce customer service calls down the line.

Nick, if you don't like driver cheat threads, just ignore them. There really aren't that many that they're destroying the forums, and they're a valid subject for this forum. If you're so tired of them, tell nV + ATi to stop implementing them, rather than telling us to stop talking about them. No need to get so emotional over an issue which you deem old. And just as you think nobody cares about driver cheats, I think nobody cares that your 4200 scores higher than eno's 9600, or that you continued to try to stir up trouble by then implying that eno was cheating his customers by OCing the display model. Woo-hoo, you're an instigator. Now get over yourself, please.

PS - Speaking of selfish posting, please try to reduce the number of lines your sig takes up, maybe by separating your components with a " | " rather than a line break. (I'm not sure why anyone would care about the speed of your CD-RW drive or the make of your DVD drive, either. I don't mean to encourage you, but do you need two lines for your two HDs, considering you don't even list their speed or cache size?) I think two or three lines is the accepted etiquette, but you could do most people a bigger favor and reduce it to a single link to AT's rig page. This applies to High, too.

 

[nick1985]

Originally posted by: Pete
Nice O/C, eno. I'm surprised a 9600 came with active cooling, but I guess it may reduce customer service calls down the line.

Nick, if you don't like driver cheat threads, just ignore them. There really aren't that many that they're destroying the forums, and they're a valid subject for this forum. If you're so tired of them, tell nV + ATi to stop implementing them, rather than telling us to stop talking about them. No need to get so emotional over an issue which you deem old. And just as you think nobody cares about driver cheats, I think nobody cares that your 4200 scores higher than eno's 9600, or that you continued to try to stir up trouble by then implying that eno was cheating his customers by OCing the display model. Woo-hoo, you're an instigator. Now get over yourself, please.

PS - Speaking of selfish posting, please try to reduce the number of lines your sig takes up, maybe by separating your components with a " | " rather than a line break. (I'm not sure why anyone would care about the speed of your CD-RW drive or the make of your DVD drive, either. I don't mean to encourage you, but do you need two lines for your two HDs, considering you don't even list their speed or cache size?) I think two or three lines is the accepted etiquette, but you could do most people a bigger favor and reduce it to a single link to AT's rig page. This applies to High, too.

just by scrolling through this thread alone, i saw 3 or 4 people with more lines in their sig than mine...

 

[Regs]

I agree with Pete, if manufactures are creating optimizations for such programs that artificially increase score, then it should be a valid point to discuss when you want to compare it to other video cards. Considering, once again, we have to hear about your unbreakable and unbeatable ti4200, Nick. Like he said though, he had significant performance gains when he over clocked the 9600p. I don't know why it became another Nvidia vs Ati match, then driver optimizations wouldn't even have to be mentioned.

It should especially be legitimate considering when some NV cores , when over clocked , don't even increase in score. Which I think saw stated in a few of Anand's benchmark reviews.

 

[andrewjtc]

I think the Radoen 9600 series is quite a good overclocker, but it dosen't always apply (I've got a friend who bought a Powercolor Radoen 9600 Pro Bravo who could only overclock his core to 467, but the memory overclocks pretty good tough).

I recently bought a Sapphire Radeon 9600 Pro at 400/303 (until now, no XTs in my country). The memory modules were rated only at 3.3ns, so I didn't even bother trying to push it higher. The core was another thing though - my first overclock went straight up to 513 at stock cooling with no problems whatsoever. Played a whole lot of games to make sure though.

Last night I tried to push it further and got a stable 526/303 at stock cooling with only a slightly open PC case. Played with Halo for an hour to make sure if it was stable and it was.. I'll have to test it out a bit more to be sure though, but like one poster said before, a clock increase of 30%+ is nothing to sneeze at..

 

[Pete]

Originally posted by: nick1985
just by scrolling through this thread alone, i saw 3 or 4 people with more lines in their sig than mine...

Hey, I mentioned High, too. I didn't mean to single you out and ignore everyone else. I thought I was pretty specific in being general, though: I'd prefer everyone eliminate sigs altogether (move them to your profile page), but I can deal with two to three lines. You were being unusually tangential and argumentative in this thread, though, so I gave you a little of your own medicine.

 

[timosyy]

Re: the first post ...

My ATI Radeon 9600 Pro w/stock fan and all is sitting at 520/330 ... and I dont feel like i'm pushing it at all. Thats just what i'm comfortable at -_-

Edit: actually, after re-reading, I think you were referring to a 9600 ? un-pro. Cause the pro's i believe come stock at 400/300 and you said your memory started at 200 something ?

 

[FFactory0x]

Originally posted by: nick1985

Originally posted by: Pete
Nice O/C, eno. I'm surprised a 9600 came with active cooling, but I guess it may reduce customer service calls down the line.

Nick, if you don't like driver cheat threads, just ignore them. There really aren't that many that they're destroying the forums, and they're a valid subject for this forum. If you're so tired of them, tell nV + ATi to stop implementing them, rather than telling us to stop talking about them. No need to get so emotional over an issue which you deem old. And just as you think nobody cares about driver cheats, I think nobody cares that your 4200 scores higher than eno's 9600, or that you continued to try to stir up trouble by then implying that eno was cheating his customers by OCing the display model. Woo-hoo, you're an instigator. Now get over yourself, please.

PS - Speaking of selfish posting, please try to reduce the number of lines your sig takes up, maybe by separating your components with a " | " rather than a line break. (I'm not sure why anyone would care about the speed of your CD-RW drive or the make of your DVD drive, either. I don't mean to encourage you, but do you need two lines for your two HDs, considering you don't even list their speed or cache size?) I think two or three lines is the accepted etiquette, but you could do most people a bigger favor and reduce it to a single link to AT's rig page. This applies to High, too.

just by scrolling through this thread alone, i saw 3 or 4 people with more lines in their sig than mine...

The only reason you touting your 4200 is cause your too FVuckin cheap to upgrade the video card on your POS computer. BTW. Im just kidding!!! Nice oc