ATI 8500 Radeon or Geforce 3-Ti200

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yo i got a ?? i want to know which vid card to get both are around the sem price and i am looking for soemthinggood for gaming, which would u guys recomend? thanx
 

Daovonnaex

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<< yo i got a ?? i want to know which vid card to get both are around the sem price and i am looking for soemthinggood for gaming, which would u guys recomend? thanx >>

That's blatantly obvious. Even with nVidia's better drivers, the sheer power of the Radeon 8500 makes it a better choice.
 

sMashPiranha

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Yep, definitely the 8500. The price isn't that far from the Ti 200, it's more powerful and has more features.
 

Daovonnaex

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If you want to overclock, buy retail (faster RAM chips). Otherwise, save the cash and buy OEM. If you're cheap and you want to overclock, then buy an OEM and desolder the RAM chips off the board, then solder in some very fast ones.
 

AnMig

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Daovonnaex

"If you want to overclock, buy retail (faster RAM chips). Otherwise, save the cash and buy OEM."



Is this confirmed? Are all the oem cards (newegg particularly) use slower ram chips (4ns)?

My wife is planning on purchasing me the 8500 today at noon and I am debating on the oem or retail I believe there is a $50 to $60
dollar difference. Please advice. I am into overclocking so I have no problems with software oclocking or bios change but the ram replacemnt is a little over my head.

There was one site at price watch that sell oem cards 8500 but gave you the option of upgrading the ram chips to 3.2 ns for extra 25 dollars.


Anybody have info on ram speed on the oem or where I can purchase a oem card with fast ram installed.


Thanks
 

Mustanggt

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The radeon 8500 is faster and prob looks alot better IQ, It competes with the TI500 so this is clear choice no arguments can be made about that. I just bought a retail version but OEM with 250MHz core is still plenty fast.
 

Byte

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these guys are idiots, get a Geforce, you'll be happier in teh long run. Most if not all the new games will be Gef optimized esp the Xbox ports.
 

Blain

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How is ATI's driver support for the 8500?
I don't just mean, how often are they updated. But when they are updated, are they good?
 

AA0

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"these guys are idiots, get a Geforce, you'll be happier in teh long run. Most if not all the new games will be Gef optimized esp the Xbox ports. "

Its idiotic statements like that, which create monopolies. Lets all use intel cpus, and nvidia card, we'll all be happy right?



The 8500 driver support is good, the updates are regular or are supposed to be, and are so far have fixed a lot of bugs in games. Although the only games I see bugs in are older titles, most can be worked around, if not all. The last update improved performance, fixed smoothvision and a lot of little bugs.
 

Blain

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I read Tom's review of 21 GeForce cards. He didn't have very good things to say about their TV-out or video capture quality.
It looks like my next card will be an nVIDIA or ATI. With speeds so high with boards out now... Image quality & good driver support become more important.

In the real world, does an extra 500 3D Mark 2001 make much of a difference?
 

tecumseh

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I just purchased the G3 Ti 200 (Xtasy) from Mvave. I've read reviews (Computer Games magazine) that the G3 Ti 200 is a better choice over the Raedon 8500.

Also, don't OEM manufactures disable certain features on there video cards? I know that they did this with the regular raedon cards last year!
:confused::confused::confused:
 

Chuck

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I've been away from the graphics card scene a while and was quite supprised to see ATI's leap performance wise. Looking at the benchmarks and price, it seems a no brainer to get the 8500. Can anyone with some experiance with both cards say anything useful about what the Radeon might not have. I notice that it claims to be 1.3 OpenGL compliant which is nice.

More specifically are there are any other cards (nVidia, AIT or otherwise) that are comming out soon that would severly lower the price of the current set).

Thanks.

Chuck.
 

AA0

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Thats the reason why I got the 8500 over the GF3s, its because they have so much more than raw fps. Truform is amazing, just play RTCW. The IQ is great, and smoothvision runs well. Haven't seen anything that can really use the pixel shader and stuff, but its there for when we need it. The GF3s have no features other than speed, otherwise nvidia would have to write drivers for them, and from the past examples, they are poor at best at introducing new functions on cards.