Ati 5000 series as onboard GPU with bitstreaming?

[athurdent]

Are there any plans for an onboard solution with the 5000 series ati including bitstreaming. This would the perfect htpc card.
Or am I better off getting the 5400 series card?

 

[Painman]

Stop derailing threads. The OP asked a legitimate question and instead posting something helpful you highjack it? Take a day off.

Fern
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You'll get nothing but political bullshit here, Young Padawan.

Sign up at HardForum if you want help. This place is a Circus Sideshow Freaking Joke of an excuse, and I'm sorry you ended up here.

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[dguy6789]

I don't think it's fair to make a comment like that. There are two, maybe three people tops on the entire video board who are blatant, illogical trolls/fanboys who have no interest in real discussion, only an interest in promoting their favorite brand and bashing the other. Every destroyed thread was caused by the same two or three people in all cases. Everyone else is capable of reasonable discussion, nothing political.

As for the OP: As far as I know, there have been no real details given about the 5400 cards and the integrated 5000 solutions, so I don't think anyone can answer your question.

 

[Borealis7]

welcome to the forums.

now put this fish in your ear. ><>

AMD usually has an IGP for every generation, i think there is no word yet on the latest boards with a 5000-series equivalent IGP.

 

[athurdent]

ok, so it will take a while I guess...

 

[lsv]

Taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evergreen_&#37;28GPU_family)

One major milestone is that the Evergreen GPU family supports HDMI 1.3a output, since previous generations of GPUs lags behind in terms of audio codec support. The previous generation R700 family GPUs can only support audio up to LPCM 7.1 and no bitstream output support for Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio audio formats to external AV receivers. This feature is now supported on Evergreen family GPUs.

Chances are the 5000 series IGP will get bitstreaming... It's speculation right now thuogh... However, one can assume because Evergreen get's it the IGP will too.

 

[Janooo]

How about 'the 8-series is right around the corner':
http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=3719&p=5

 

[SunnyD]

You'll get nothing but political bullshit here, Young Padawan.

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[MrK6]

I just wanted to quote this for posterity.

Nothing like a mod callout to brighten one's day.

Can't say he's wrong.

A 5000 series IGP would be AMD's best way to counter Intel's new i3's and i5's, as it could be potentially killer. That said, I haven't heard a thing about the 5000 series low-end, discrete or not. AMD should shake a leg in that respect, as that's a huge and seemingly growing market.

 

[ViRGE]

How about 'the 8-series is right around the corner':
http://www.anandtech.com/tradeshows/showdoc.aspx?i=3719&p=5

Isn't the 8-series IGP Radeon 4000-based?

 

[lopri]

Isn't the 8-series IGP Radeon 4000-based?

I believe so. Now that AMD has launched a $99 part, there is virtually zero chance for IGP to be based on HD 5000 architecture. A $50 discreet card will be launched next and it leaves no room for IGPs.

Bitstreaming is a question mark, though. I think it may (should) make it in regardless.

 

[SmCaudata]

Out of curiosity, why does it matter? If you can internally decode to LPCM then you get the exact same info at reciever. On top of that, the Clarkdales can do all the HTPC stuff and bitstream if you want. I don't see much market for ingetrated graphics in a chipset for HTPC anymore.

 

[IntelUser2000]

The 8-series IGP is probably based on Radeon 4350. That's almost 2x faster than 785G, and a higher clocked version of that can be a successor to the 790GX.

Then Llano will take it to new levels with HD5000 based IGP, with 480 SPs.

For Intel the big IGP jump is Arrandale/Clarkdale, for AMD it'll be Llano. Sandy Bridge's graphics will be faster than the Arrandale/Clarkdale IGP but it'll be like from G35 to G45.

 

[s44]

Out of curiosity, why does it matter? If you can internally decode to LPCM then you get the exact same info at reciever.

It's not bitstreaming per se, it's the lack of a Protected Audio Path. The 5000 series has it, the 4000 doesn't. Without the PAP, not only is bitstreaming forbidden but anything more detailed than 16 bit and 48Khz has to be downsampled to that resolution and rate. (You'll note that some -- though not too many -- Blu-Rays are now 20/96.)

Whether anyone can notice the difference from the downsampling is another matter. If you have a cheap-ass computer speaker system, it will make zero difference. If you're connecting to a $5000+ HT setup, maybe... I think the issue is that even if you don't notice, it's irritating to know that you aren't getting the best possible output.

 

[SmCaudata]

I see. I wasn't even thinking of the downsampling with the PAP.... So annoying.