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ATI 38XX dynamic clocking

When you can't compete with performance (purely assumption on my part) then competing with greater features is always a plus. Especially vs the 8800GTs el-cheapo design of no fan throttling or 2D/3D speeds, and also the weak cooling solution.
 
it probably has to dynamically clock down so it doesn't overheat, so they flipped it into a "feature". 😉
 
Originally posted by: yacoub
it probably has to dynamically clock down so it doesn't overheat, so they flipped it into a "feature". 😉
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And the 8800GTs run amazingly cool don't they? :roll:

You haven't even seen any of the cards in action and you're so quick to judge them....and not only in this thread I might add.
 
Originally posted by: thilan29
Originally posted by: yacoub
it probably has to dynamically clock down so it doesn't overheat, so they flipped it into a "feature". 😉
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And the 8800GTs run amazingly cool don't they? :roll:

You haven't even seen any of the cards in action and you're so quick to judge them....and not only in this thread I might add.
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Nah, the 8800GT's should have kept the dual slot coolers. As I keep saying. Although they are managing the same temperatures that the G80's get with a dual slot cooler. Load temps around 75-80C, sounds about right. I believe they would be amazingly cool with dual slot coolers however.

By the way, you haven't seen any of the cards in action either, and you're quick to judge them as well. In favor of them, just as Yacoub's comment was not. You are both exactly the same on opposite sides of the field. So who's better?
 
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
By the way, you haven't seen any of the cards in action either, and you're quick to judge them as well. In favor of them, just as Yacoub's comment was not. You are both exactly the same on opposite sides of the field. So who's better?
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Where have I said anything completely positive (ie. stating 100% sure) about RV670? I have never stated anything regarding these cards without a hint of doubt. Just as I never stated anything as 100% about the GT cards before they were released. In fact if you look at anything recently I posted about RV670, it's more pessimistic than optimistic.

I saw this posted at another forum I was reading so I posted it here.
 
Here's the thing. Yacoub said nothing about Nvidia, but was poking fun at ATI, yet you decided to bring the 8800GT into it for no apparent reason.

Quote: "And the 8800GTs run amazingly cool don't they?"

My question is (and you don't really have to answer this, as it's just a question that floats around in the void between my ears), what part of Yacoub's statement prompted you to immediately think of the temperature of an 8800GT?

Your thread is good. I think that it is interesting that ATI may dynamically clock itself. I wasn't really questioning that.
 
Originally posted by: yacoub
it probably has to dynamically clock down so it doesn't overheat, so they flipped it into a "feature". 😉
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It seems ATI is finally ridding itself of the heat problem that has plagued their cards for years with RV670. The RV670 should definately be much cooler than the 8800GT and probably use less power as well, even at a much higher clockspeed. We've already seen this with the low-end market; the HD 2400/2600 run cooler and use less power than the 8500/8600 series.

The fact that ATI is almost always a half-step ahead of nVidia in manufacturing processe really helps.
 
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
My question is (and you don't really have to answer this, as it's just a question that floats around in the void between my ears), what part of Yacoub's statement prompted you to immediately think of the temperature of an 8800GT?
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What card is RV670 supposed to compete with (whether it CAN in fact compete with that is another story however)? THAT'S why I brought it up.

I posted something that I thought was interesting and he came in and thread crapped (basically posted something that obviously was meant to stir the pot a bit even though my OP had no hint of that whatsoever)...THAT I didn't like. If I had posted something negative about ANY card in my OP then I'd really have nothing to say if someone came in and thread crapped...but I DIDN'T do that in my OP.

I was hoping to keep it a bit more technical (ie. overhead and such associated with dynamic clocking) but well that went out the window didn't it?

Anyway, I regret jumping at his comment so I won't say anything further about it. I hope this thread can continue in a more technical light.
 
Originally posted by: SickBeast
I wonder if a feature like this could actually increase performance...
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Probably not increase performance...I can only see some power savings and reduced heat. I wonder if there's any overhead associated with the hardware needed to measure the load and then clock accordingly.
 
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Nah, the 8800GT's should have kept the dual slot coolers. As I keep saying. Although they are managing the same temperatures that the G80's get with a dual slot cooler. Load temps around 75-80C, sounds about right. I believe they would be amazingly cool with dual slot coolers however.
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This is true, but then they wouldn't have been as cheap. Having owned both cards, I can tell you that physically the GTX is quite a bit more card than the GT in almost every respect. It's not hard to see that the GTX costs much more to produce than the GT.

 
Originally posted by: nitromullet
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Nah, the 8800GT's should have kept the dual slot coolers. As I keep saying. Although they are managing the same temperatures that the G80's get with a dual slot cooler. Load temps around 75-80C, sounds about right. I believe they would be amazingly cool with dual slot coolers however.
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This is true, but then they wouldn't have been as cheap. Having owned both cards, I can tell you that physically the GTX is quite a bit more card than the GT in almost every respect. It's not hard to see that the GTX costs much more to produce than the GT.
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Oh I do agree. But, I like the dual slot coolers enough to pay an extra 30 bucks just to have it. I mean, that's the average price of a cheap aftermarket graphics card cooler anyways.

I'd rather have it right from the start, and pay an extra 30 bucks. I have no problems doing that if I know the card is nice and chilly.

And yes, I have the GTS and know that the coolers are quite diesel.
 
there is nothing stopping a company from releasing duel slot cooler based GT cards... is there?
I mean there is already a company that makes a passively cooled version and a super OCed duel slot cooler version... it is also only sold in england or some other forsaken place noone heard about...
 
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